Transcript
Good evening and welcome to the meeting of Mayor and Cabinet. I'm Mayor Brenda Dakers
and I shall be chairing tonight's meeting. I would first like to welcome the Cabinet
officers and members of the public watching in person or on the internet at home. This
meeting is being recorded and webcast live on the Council websites. There are a few
housekeeping matters to bring to the attention of members and officers involved to ensure
the smooth running of this meeting. Please ensure that your microphone is set to mute
unless you are speaking. If Cabinet members wish to speak at any point during the meeting,
please indicate this by raising your hands. We are not expecting a planned evacuation
tonight. If the fire alarm sounds, please leave your belongings and exit the building
quickly via the nearest fire exit and assemble opposite the cost of coffee on Catford Broadway.
Some members may be participating online. Virtual attendance does not count for the purposes
of section 85 of the local government at 1972. Are there any apologies for absence? Okay.
Thank you. Item one is the minutes and I move that the minutes of the last Mayor and Cabinet
meeting be agreed as a correct record. Are these minutes seconded? Thank you. Are the
minutes agreed? Thank you. Item two, decoration of interests. Does anyone have an interest
to declare in respect to any of the items on the agenda? Okay. Take that as a no. Thank
you. Item three, matters raised by screwing other constitutional bodies. There are three
screwing matters tonight. The first two are referrals from the OVUE and screwing committee
relating to asset management and taking a trauma informed approach. Councillor SMIT, Chair
of OVUE and screwing committee, please introduce your referrals who have up to five minutes
to speak on each one. Good evening, Mayor and Cabinet. Thanks for the introduction, Brenda.
I'm bringing two referrals before you this evening. The first one I'd like to talk to
is taking a trauma informed approach to delivering services. Let me just put my clock on so I
can stick to that five minutes. So in November 2023, the Office for Budget
Responsibility reported that the UK households are suffering the worst period in living standards
since modern records began. Indeed, this is the legacy of 14 long years of austerity.
As local Councillors, we see this firsthand how this plays out. The strain upon residents
increases year-on-year as do the pressures on those who work hard to deliver our services.
Despite these challenges, we can be proud that Lewis and Council has worked consistently
towards better outcomes for residents and mitigates against some of the chaos and distress caused
by austerity. From our Council House building program to the cost of living response to
our funding to support school infrastructure to deliver free school meals, a trauma informed
approach acknowledges the long-term impact of distressing experiences on well-being, behaviour
and emotional responses. This may be caused by a single event or as we often see repeated
stressful experiences over a longer period. Trauma informed work acknowledges the prevalence
of trauma and its impact on people's everyday experiences. When applied to services, this
looks not at what we deliver but how we deliver and aims to create spaces, services and organisations
that support well-being of residents and staff. The Office for Health Improvement and Disparities
organises this approach into six key principles, safety, empowerment, trust, choice, collaboration
and cultural considerations. We're lucky to have numerous examples of best practice
in Lewisham. Our school's inclusion strategy takes a trauma informed view to ensure a fair
and consistent approach to behaviour management. Our Borough of Sanctuary program sees a trauma
informed approach as integral to its work and is set for it to form a part of mandatory
training for all new staff and our award winning youth offending system whose bespoke trauma
informed anti-racist restorative approach saw them reduce first time entrance into youth
justice system by 20% in 2023 to 24, well below the, well above I should say the reduction
was well above the London and UK averages. However, while there are pockets of excellent
practice, there isn't a present, a unified approach that could see this work embedded
across the delivery of all services and partners. There is therefore a risk that some services
will adopt this approach to different standards and other services who routinely work with
residents experiencing distress may not adopt it at all. This strategic importance has a
growing national recognition. Thrive London is a public health partnership funded by the
Mayor of London, NHS and the Office for Health Improvement and Disparities, an office free
term resources. Can we out those online to be muted, please, thank you, please do continue.
Thrive London is a public health partnership funded by the Mayor of London, NHS and the
Office for Health Improvement and Disparities and offers free trauma informed training to
organisations and individuals. The Scottish National Trauma Transformation Programme is
a major and long-term change programme which aims to help services and organisations embed
this approach across policy and practice and the West Midlands combined authority is working
to embed an overarching framework across a multitude of partners and services. Informing
our recommendations, we collected supporting evidence from our brilliant youth offending
service and supporting evidence from Michael Preston Shoots, the outgoing chair of the Adult
Safeguiding Board, Hannah O'Khalley from Partners in a Community Interest Company made
up of psychotherapists and clinical psychologists and Trishana Osborne, an independent consultant
that works to embed this approach across health and legal settings. All the experts we spoke
notes are advocated for a consistent, worldwide approach and for training and advocacy to
start at the most senior levels and to be cascaded across all levels of organisations
and services. To end, I won't read the recommendations in full, but I would add that they ask the following
questions. What opportunities are there to make spaces, processes, language and language
safer for residents? What new opportunities are there to support staff and members who
experience secondary trauma and what opportunities are there to build on existing best practice
and to support its dissemination across services and partners so that the experience of resident
staff and elected members is at all times trauma-informed. Thank you.
And you've got another referral? Yes, and the other referral on the asset management strategy
I've actually presented on this at Marin Cabinet in October, so I won't add to that, but I
look forward to liaising with Councillor Warsh and Patrick Debeck, who's here to discuss
the strategy before it comes to Marin Cabinet in July. Thank you.
Thank you, Councillor Schmidt. The third, so is there any questions or comments for anybody?
Then we'll bring forward the third matter, which is the comments of the House in select
committee on the use of schedule to ground eight of the House in Act 1988 by House and
providers in addition. I invite Councillor Pemfolds. And you have five minutes to introduce
your referral, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I did send everybody a little
note on Saturday evening, has everybody got that okay? I've got paper copies of people
need it. So this is a referral by the House in select committee. The committee saw in
March the five main housing associations active in Loursham, namely Hyde, London and Quadrant,
Southern, Peabody and Clarion. The House in select committee was concerned that all these
housing associations, to a greater or lesser extent, use ground eight in possession proceedings
for renters against general needs tenants. All the housing associations say that they
use it rarely, but the fact remains that they do use it, and Councillor Cooper will be aware
of a case in New Cross Gate, which is giving us calls for concern, where Hyde is using
ground eight. So to explain, ground eight is a mandatory ground for possession due to
renters. I want to put this in context. Ground eight does not apply to secure tenants. So
secure tenants are council tenants. And the ground for possession that the Council would
use for renters is ground one in schedule to the housing act 1985. And this simply says
that possession proceedings can be brought where some rent is lawfully due from the tenant.
Now this is a discretionary ground. And deciding whether to make a possession order, the court
will look at the circumstances of the case. They'll look at the level of arrears, how
long it is taken for the arrears to accrue, and the reason for the arrears. The court
also has several options available to it. For instance, it could make a suspended possession
order, which is when a possession order is made, but it's suspended on terms, such terms typically
been at the tenant-paced current rent plus five pounds a week towards the arrears. And
if they stick to those terms, once the arrears have cleared, the order falls. So local authorities
are the only landlord which can issue secure tenants. All other registered social housing
providers have to grant a short or a short short hold tenant. And in that way, registered
social landlords are treated exactly the same as a private landlord when it comes to the
grounds they can use for possession proceedings. The grounds for possession of rent arrears
for a short and short, short hold tenant is a set hour and it's go to the housing at 88.
And this gives three grounds, which I've, I've sent to you, there's ground eight, ground
ten and ground eleven. As you see, ground ten and ground eleven, as well as being discretionary
grounds, are extremely widely drawn. Ground tenant just says that some rent lawfully
due from the tenant is unpaid on which the proceedings for possession of a gun and, well,
unpaid at the date of the service of the notice. And ground eleven says whether or not there
is any rent in arrears at the date the proceedings for possession of the gun, the tenant has
persistently delayed paying the rent, which has lawfully become due. So they're very widely
drawn, but they're discretionary grounds. So as with a secure tenancy, the grounds ten
and eleven, the court will look at the circumstance of the case when they decide to make a possession
order. Again, the court has other remedies available to it. For instance, suspended possession
orders. This is not the case with ground eight. This is a mandatory ground. If the ground
is made out, then the court must order possession irrespective of how the arrears have arisen.
No, for instance, it's no good for the tenant saying, well, it's my fault. The DWP have
marked up my universal credit claim. I haven't had universal credit for two months, so I
haven't had my rent paid. That is no interest of concern to the court. This is a mandatory
ground. There is more than eight weeks arrears if the rent is paid weekly or two months arrears
if the rent is paid monthly, then the court must order possession. Furthermore, it must
be an outright possession order. With ground eight, the court has no discretion to make
any kind of suspended or postponed possession order. It is a view of the housing select
committee that the ground eight is not an appropriate ground for general needs tenants.
They can be some of the most vulnerable in society whose lives can be chaotic and troubled.
The housing select committee that believes that ground ten and eleven are very widely
drawn and gives enough power to the landlord. There is a view of the housing select committee
that social housing tenants are the very type of tenant who should be protected by the court
hearing the circumstances of the case before deciding whether their arrears justify them
losing their home. Housing associations can have a policy on this, or they can write into
general needs tenancy agreements that grounds a possession upon which they will be relying
and in that event specifically exclude ground eight. I personally know cases where there
has been a stock transfer from a local authority to a housing association and it has been that
ground eight will not apply. Although this is a slightly different scenario, the housing
select committee asked Mary Cabinet to ask officers to look at whether there can be a
provision within the nomination agreements we have with housing associations that when
they house general needs tenants from our allocation list, ground eight is excluded.
Thank you. Thank you so much, Councillor Penfield. Is there any members that wish to
speak on these matters? Yes, Councillor CUM. I just wanted to thank Councillor Penfield
and the housing select committee for also bringing real examples of things that have
happened to residents in Lewisham and trying to format our policies around that to make
sure we are protecting some of the most vulnerable people in our borough and social housing tenants
and I look forward to having conversations with officers about their proposal and seeing
how we can take it forward. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Smith, Councillor
Penfield for your referrals. They have been noted and I will ask the relevant officers
to prepare a response to come to a future meeting. Before I move on to item four, I just want
to turn back to the apologies and also to welcome Councillor Warshoo's online for joining
us, but we also have apologies for letting this fall from Councillor Dureyke and apologies
from Councillor Powell and Croupsky who cannot be with us this evening. So thank you. Onto
item four, which is the corporate performance report for quarter three of 2023, 24, and
I shall formally move this report but us, David Austin, to introduce the report. Thank
you. Thank you, Mayor. Just to say this is the regular performance report that you get
quarterly and this is the Q3 report to December, obviously somewhat delayed due to periods
of pre-election meetings not being held. The report covers the normal ground. The two
things I would note are that it does this time include some additional housing indicators
that we have added to this quarter because with Lewis and Holmes coming in on the first
of October, this is the first quarter that that company's normal performance reporting
is not available so we've incorporated it into the Council's reporting. We'll be bringing
forward in July the year-end, out-term performance report and we'll also be undertaking a review
at that point because this will be the end of the second year we've been running this
report to ensure that it's fit for purpose for the Administration and its priorities
going forward. But otherwise the report is before you to note and then if agreed this
evening we'll publish it on the website. Thank you so much for that introduction. Does
any other member wish to speak on this? Okay. Are the recommendations seconded? Thank you.
Are the recommendations agreed? Thank you. I confirm that the recommendations have been
agreed. Item five concerns change of age range at Brentnell's school, permission to consult,
I invite Councillor Barnum to move and introduce the report.
Thanks very much, Mayor. Colleagues will recall that we have a strategic commitment which
was highlighted in the Labor Manifesto in 2022 to promote inclusion in education through
improving capacity to meet our children's needs locally and we've been adding capacity
in special schools and in mainstream schools for children with special educational needs
and disabilities. This report concerns Brentnell which provides for children age four to 16
with complex social communication and interaction difficulties including autism. Brentnell is
rated as a good school and it will surprise no one here if I point out that all of Lewis'
special schools are rated good or outstanding by Oxford. But however good a particular
school is, there are often challenges when children face transitions and the transition
at age 16 to further education can be difficult for all young people and particularly difficult
if children have special educational needs and need additional support. So for the past
two years the Council has been working with Brentnell on a pilot program in which the
school has continued to educate a number of vulnerable year 12 children who have passed
the age of 16 to help that transition into adulthood and access local college provision
and that pilot has gone really well. All but one pupil successfully transferred into local
college provision last year and so to build on that we're now proposing to formally change
the age range of the school to allow 17 year olds to be formally part of the school role
and to allow that work to continue and we would envisage commissioning places from
the school for a number of over-aged children currently over-aged children to do that transitional
support. So this report seeks agreement to a statutory consultation after which we'll
get further advice and confirm or not our decision on that probably at our July meeting
so I recommend that we agree the recommendations in the report. Thank you very much.
Thank you Councillor Barnum and I think that this is really sort of worthy work because
it isn't easy for those who have additional needs to transfer from primary to secondary,
from secondary to college and into life in general and to give that extra year and that
support is really good so definitely welcome this report and the consultation that should
be agreed this evening be going forward. Are the recommendations seconded? Thank you. Does
any other member wish to speak on this matter? Are the recommendations agreed? Thank you.
I can confirm that the recommendations have been agreed. Item six, the authority to consult
on a local enforcement plan. I invite Councillor No, I shall move this report and invite Councillor
Walsh to introduce it. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mayor Dakers. I hope that you
can hear me okay. As a labour level authority, I'm proud to say that we are pro-development
but not at any and on costs. The purpose of this report is to seek authority to carry
out public consultation on a local planning enforcement plan for tuition. Local enforcement
plans are encouraged by the government as a means providing clarity and transparency
around planning enforcement processes. The local planning enforcement plan will support
the Council's local planning authority in its enforcement duties by explaining to the
public being both complainants and those subject to the enforcement action, the range
of discretionary powers available to us, how we prioritize enforcement cases and the range
of actions that we can and will take for those who break our rules. Comments from the public
consultation will be considered and incorporated into an updated local planning enforcement
plan which is planned. That's quite a lot of plans to be represented to Mayor and Cabinet
in the autumn. So this report is setting out and asking for authority to go and consult
ahead of a full report coming back with public consultation about how Lewisian residents
would like us to make sure that those who are undertaking development within our borough
are acting accordingly with our rules and regulations locally.
Thank you Councillor Warsh. Are these recommendations seconded?
Thank you. Does any member wish to speak on this matter?
Thank you and thank the officers for what they've done so far. Are these recommendations agreed?
Thank you. I can confirm that the recommendations have been agreed.
Item 7 is the implementation of a public space protection order. I invite Councillor Campbell
to move and introduce the report. Thank you Mayor. Firstly I'd like to thank the officers
that put the work in to make sure that this public space protection order is ready for implementation
on the 1st of June. The only comment that I really want to make is to confirm that this PSPO
journey will firstly be about education, there will be about behaviour change and it will be
out support with enforcement being the last resort. I ask the Mayor and Cabinet to agree
the recommendation to implement the PSPO. Thank you.
Thank you Councillor Campbell. Are these recommendations seconded?
Does any member wish to speak on this? Thank you Councillor Baum.
I'd just like to say it seems a long time ago now and it was a long time ago that I
can remember launching the consultation on the public space protection order. I think it was February
23 and I know there's been a few bumps in the road since then but I just wanted to say I'm
really grateful to Councillor Campbell for seeing this through because in the ward I represent
and I know in other parts of the borough a lot of people have been quite distressed by what appears
to be a rise in anti-social behaviour. That's not to suggest that things are out of control
in lotion because they're not but there are there's a minority of people who behave in a way that
causes upset to other people and we need to send a strong signal that that's not what our
community wants and I think this will help to do that. So thanks very much.
Thank you Councillor Baum. I'd just want to add that I agree that it is about behaviour supporting
and trying to redirect people so that our officers are able to do that prior to sort of going to
the final enforcement process but it is important to recognise that you know where we do have
elements within the borough where we have anti-social behaviour that our officers are able to
act swiftly and quickly to deal with that. So thank you for bringing this report forward.
So are these recommendations agreed? Thank you. I can confirm that the recommendations have been
agreed. Item eight is an annual progress update on the Autism Strategy Action Plan
and I invite Councillor BELL to move this report.
Thank you Mayor Dakers. The Lewisham All Age Autism Strategy 23-28 presents our collective
vision for the borough and describes the priority areas we will work on over the next five years.
The strategy is established action plans which together outline the route map to make sure
that Lewisham is more autism inclusive borough to live and work. The strategy is developed in
collaboration with autistic residents, carers, guardians and local professionals. The Lewisham
Autistic Partnership Board or LAPB is responsible for overseeing the strategy's action plans and
projects particularly the All Age Autism Support Service and Steering Groups. This report provides
an update on the implementation of the strategy and the action plans. As Mayor and Cabinet know
autism is a spectrum condition that impacts the way autistic people interpret the world,
communicate and regulate their emotions. Autistic people often experience discrimination and isolation
as a result and consistently report a lower quality of life than the general population.
There are currently just over 4000 people diagnosed with autism in the borough but the number is
probably a lot higher than that because of the waiting times for diagnosis and autistic people
face significant inequalities and because of that often have worse outcomes than neurotypical
peers. Whilst the strategy aligns with the government's national priorities as set out on the paper
referred to, several consultation processes have been undertaken during the various stage of the
development to ensure the strategies orientated around what's important to our local community.
In order to ensure the strategy remains a living working set of priorities and deliverables the
LAPB includes the Council's strategic partners, providers and community members and people with
lived experience. The role of the Board will be to oversee the development, mobilization and
delivery of the strategy as I previously spoken about. The strategy's summaries contained in
section five of the report. The fourth strategy can be contained in Appendix A, the Steering Group
which oversees is contained in Appendix B in terms of the action plans and the equality
analysis assessment can be found in Appendix C. Finally, I am delighted that my cabinet advisor
Councillor Laura Cunningham will be working with me on the autism strategy. Laura has extensive
experience and has been a great support in the development of the strategy when it was launched
last year. Subject, any questions Mayor and Cabinet may have, I ask you to agree the recommendations
as set out in section two of the report and thank officers for all their hard work in putting
together this update and previously in creating and enabling the strategy and the Steering Group
and the Board to function. Thank you very much. Thank you Councillor Bell, this report is an update
is most welcome and I really look forward to seeing its journey and coming to fruition. Are these
yes, are these recommendations seconded? Thank you and does any member wish to speak on this item?
Thank you once again. Are these recommendations agreed?
Thank you. I can confirm that the recommendations have been agreed before I move on to the next item
just once acknowledged. Councillor DRIKE, join us online and welcome her to the meeting. Thank you.
Item nine is award of contract for interpreting, translation and transcription services. I invite
Councillor Barnum to move and introduce this report. Thank you. Thanks Mayor Dakers. As Brenda said,
this report recommends awarding a contract for interpreting translation and transcription services.
These are services that the Council has a legal duty to provide, one to ensure we meet the
requirements of the Equality Act 2010, but also these are services we would probably want to
provide anyway to make sure that all of our residents can get access to the service and support they need.
It provides face-to-face interpretation. For example, when a social worker needs a language
interpreter to ensure good communication with a client or sign language services, it also provides
telephone interpreting and document translation. It's a whole Council service. It currently sits
within children and young people's service. I must confess that was news to me when this report was
being prepared, but that makes sense because about 80% of the Council's need is located with
children and young people's services, although other big users are in housing and community
services, for example. Obviously, the needs that this service meets are varied and complex.
As a result, there's quite a complicated funding model, but we only pay for what we actually require,
so we're not committed to pay for services that we don't get out of this contract. So I recommend
agreement. My thanks to the officers for their work on the tender and this report, especially
Morgan Donahove, who I think is online and is available to answer any difficult questions or
indeed any questions. Thanks very much. Thank you, Councillor Barnum. Are these recommendations
seconded? Thank you, Councillor Cooper. Does any other member wish to speak on this item?
There is a part two close report associated with this item. Does any member wish to discuss the
information in the confidential report under item 13? Okay, I'll speak in no. Are these recommendations
therefore agreed? Thank you. I can confirm that the recommendations have been agreed.
Item 10 is the re-precuminant of the domestic abuse and violence against women and girls
community and refuge service. I'd like Councillor Campbell to move and introduce this report.
Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Domestic abuse and violence against women and girls remains a priority
in the Lewisian Council, and the Council recognises that domestic abuse includes economic abuse,
non-physical abuse and corrosion. It's essential that Lewisian residents are provided with a service
that will offer quality support to victims and survivors of all types of gendered violence,
including domestic abuse. This will empower those impacted by ensuring that victims'
experiences are validated and that they're supportive of the community. I recommend that
Mayor and Cabinet agree to the recommendation to go out the tender for the re-precuminant of
the domestic abuse and violence against women and girls community refuge service,
which will be a single point of access for crisis management that includes advocacy,
it includes support, services for victims of any former gendered based violence.
The tender, I think, is really important to say, will also include a specialist emergency service
for women and children fleeing from abuse. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Campbell. Are these
recommendations seconded? Thank you, Councillor Hearn. Does any other members wish to speak on this item?
There is a part to close reports associated with this item. Does any member wish to discuss the
information in the confidential report at item 14? Okay, those are the part one and part two
recommendations agreed. Thank you. I can confirm that the recommendations have been agreed.
Item 11 concerns the Millwall Football Club lease. I formally move this report and invite
Councillor Warsh to introduce it. Thank you again, Mayor Dakers. This report and a subsequent part
two report underlines how the Council is going to proceed with its relationship with Millwall
Football Club and the independent charity, Millwall Community Trust, in order for us to unlock and
realise the potential in the Surrey Canal Triangle, whilst adding safeguards for the trust, who I am
sure are in support of the proposals set out tonight. As the new Cabinet Member for Inclusive
Regeneration and Planning, I am committed to ensuring our principles set alongside a clear and ambitious
vision for this area for the north of the borough need to guide us in the way that we act. As an
authority, we want to see this area realise the potential to deliver good quality homes alongside
being a cultural and sporting hub with good community infrastructure whilst returning a reasonable
income to the Council in the long term that is both fair and for sustainable for all parties,
including the London Borough of Lewisham. When thinking about this regeneration scheme,
it's important to keep in mind the things that we value as a Labour-led authority,
our commitments in our Malafesto and I'm sure that those values are being put into practice
with the report being brought forward by officers today. I know Mayor and Cabinet will be
cognizant of this, but for members of the public, when reviewing the report put before us tonight,
we're primarily looking at this as the local authority and freehold landlord,
rather than the planning authority, where there are separate processes that this will also
need to adhere to and respect. However, I hope that members will be reassured that we're
achieving a reasonable and good return on our asset, whether that be commercial, i.e. the rent
returns or the broader social value, or in this case, both. And I would highlight that
independent assessments have been engaged to ensure that we as a local authority are achieving
best value for our residents. I want to thank officers and their teams that have been involved
in the detailed negotiations to get us this far, and also highlight Mayor Dakers in her previous
role as cabinet amendment for regeneration, in her unwavering commitment to finding solutions
and mutual satisfaction for all parties involved over a protracted period in achieving the proposals
put forward to Mayor and Cabinet tonight. Thank you, Councillor Borsch. All these recommendations
seconded. Thank you, Councillor Barnum. Does any other member wish to speak?
Councillor Barnum. I just wanted to echo what Councillor Wolfe said there. I mean, some of us
with long memories will remember the tangled history of plans for development on this site,
and I think it's absolutely vital that the Council was able to move forward with a robust
agreement with the club, because we want them to flourish, and we also want development to
happen in that area where it's much needed. So I echo his comments about how welcome it is
that we've made our way through this so far, and fingers crossed for the future.
Thank you, Councillor Barnum. I'd just like to give a special thanks to
one of our officers, Patrick DeBek, in particular, other members of the team, but also like to thank
Milwaukee, can you just move a football club? Because this has taken a long time to get to
the point where we have an agreement which is able to realise not only the potential for
the club, but also get a real return that is, as a public body, sort of meets the criteria that
we and the duty that we owe as a public body to our residents regarding leases, and particularly
for this area. So I just want to thank the officers and everybody who's been going back and forth
regarding getting to this point, and I look forward to whatever happens in the future there,
so thank you all. So if I just move on to, there is a part two close report associated with this
item as Councillor Warsh mentioned. Does any member wish to discuss the information in the
confidential report at item 15? Thank you. Are these recommendations agreed?
Thank you. I confirmed that the recommendations have been agreed. With that being said, with
no part two items to discuss, we could therefore close this meeting. Now thank you for joining us
whether you are at home, on the internet or in person here this evening, and thanks to all the
officers. Thank you and good night.