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Mornin' everyone, particularly any members of the public who are watching us online at today's meeting because I can't any members of the public in the public gallery. As colleagues will have noted, I was really pleased to announce last week that I was appointing Council Seraroos as the statutory deputy mayor. And I wanted to formally welcome her in that role in this meeting of Cabinet and the congratulations. And also pleased to appoint Cabinet Councilor Madeleine Solly Pointin as Deputy Cabinet Member to support Seraroos Children and Young People's Works. So welcome to your first meeting of Cabinet. And just as a reminder, Deputy Cabinet Members and Commissioners don't vote on any papers on Cabinet, that's just the preserve of Cabinet Members in the formal sense. And also wanted to welcome Council, Susan Masters, Out here as a scrutiny and Council Terri Paul, rather one of our chairs of scrutiny here today's meeting because they're going to be talking to a couple of items on our agenda by way of presentation. I also wanted to play some record and I'm sure everyone here and more broadly would wish former Councilor James asked the best in his featuring moves and wanted to note with thanks and gratitude for his contributions to the administration, our work both towards building a fair enough and all the work that he's done within his environment and sustainable transport portfolio. I'm sure all of us will be missing him. And just by way of some practicalities, those members of the Cabinet Executive who may well be watching this session online won't be able to vote on any substantive matter being discussed or move or second a paper, but they can, if they indicate through raising their remote hand, be invited to participate in any of the debates. There may well be some, there are two exempt appendices for agenda item five and agenda item seven. So please note when we get to those agenda items, if any member of Cabinet or the wider executive wish to raise or discuss a matter as contained in the appendices, the exempt appendices, then I am going to need to vote the exempt information as described in part one of schedule two world eight of the local government at 172. And then we would need to go offline and remove any members of the public or press that may be with us at that point. So I'm going to firstly jump into agenda item one, which is apologies for absence. There are any apologies for absence that I've been formally received from? Yes, Chair, we proceed with apologies for applicants and Councillor Muralg for tell, Jon, Councillor, we are here to discuss that. Thank you very much. Are there any other apologies, Cabinet executive colleagues that you know or, no? Okay, super. Can we note the declarations of interests, costs in 19 to 10? In accordance with the members code of conduct, this is the time for members to take care of the disposable community interests or non- procurement interests. In many have, in all mass being considered at this meeting, having regard to the guidance attached to the agenda. Can I just ask any colleagues, the Cabinet specifically, and then the executive more generally, if they have any interest to disclose? I'm part of strategic development committee, so therefore, I've already had some information about the bridge previously. Okay, so I think, is that material in the context of, she's a member of strategic development committee and they have presentations with regards to the proposed development design? Right, that's fine. And then just to note, we've got the recommendation 19 version that I'm into today's Cabinet meeting alongside observation 18 joint waste plan. Do I need to clear both myself? Well, I'm the polio holder overall, but we've also got Councillor John Whitworth. Okay, so we're declaring that. And is there anyone else that needs to clear any matter, any membership or strategic or local planning committee in light of, in light of this paper? Nope. Okay, so let's move on to minutes. Can we just note for me the minutes of just the views of Cabinet made on the 7th of May 2024? Are those noted Cabinet members? I don't know. And then moving on to agenda item four, appointments to outside bodies. There are no appointments to outside bodies being announced today. Now we're going to be moving on to the Santa agenda items. As mentioned previously, we're just going to do a slight move of agenda items. And I will be taking the Cabinet report 14 first followed by 13 next. So I'm going to invite Councillor Neil Wilson to talk to agenda item 14. Thank you, Chair. So, Councillor Neil Wilson, Cabinet member for Health and Adult Social Care. This is an unusual response that we're giving in regard to a really good piece of work from scrutiny on right care right person. The health and health and health social care quality and equality on right care right is to be well on the time in response to what which was first developed over in the years, my homicide police and it's been a policy adopted by the Met Police in Melbourne, 2023, not one adopted by the Council Board in relation to Council's service. It is a metropolitan police initiative. The object of this initiative is to ensure that the most appropriate agency was present required care, treatment or support as a result of their mental health as opposed to police being a default agency to respond. It's therefore has implications on services and resources of other public agencies notably the NHS and my colleague Councillor MASSIS will be addressing those because rightly they both purview of our report and that it is in turn to have the right provision is this response in relation to individuals mental health. The recommendations in the report, as I say, do not directly relate to functions of the Council, but I think it's time to make sure to remind people especially those watching that we have an over riding well-being power for all of our residents. So in many respects even though we don't have the levers necessarily to earn, we do have a responsibility for all of our residents under the well-being power. And so I am requesting the cabinet to agree to the responses. This report is to be viewed as the executive response and section four in the papers that I'm addressing, don't actually say about the very important proposals that we need to be continuing to welcoming the report, working closely with the NHS, the London's Ambulance Service. I have had conversations with my executive colleague, the cabinet member, the community safety. There is clearly implications on the police being freed up from doing the other response, which is so Council of earlier and I are in close discussion with the relevant agencies, and he will be at the community safety partnership to ensure that that is a proper feedback. I gave assurance in another place yesterday that the safeguarding adults board with the director relevant to his area account for, sorry, Jason Strelitz and myself, are ex officio. The safeguarding adults board have also got metropolitan police presence, and that is an item that's the standing item of refer to that. So we are effectively having quite a few checks and balances already over this work, but I do welcome the scrutiny. It's been timely and as I say, in conclusion, Council has no direct response and relativism. We have been, basically, looking very closely with the chair of overview and scrutiny, and the relevant scrutiny chair bonded for thought. And I think that I think that Council Masters and I have already sort of tend to be something we'll have further discovered, but they're worth it. And we continue to review this and its implementation. The figures so far are looking good in terms of how the adult service effectively respond, but that doesn't mean to say we should ever be complacent. There are people in crisis, clearly, that this is addressing very much, Chair. Thank you very much. I'm going to suggest that we calls on questions at this stage because this is a response to an external place partner rather than a function and a renal work of the Council. Amma, is there anything that you wanted to add to this? I'm just going to add, because obviously, this is a paper that's obviously been brought through by the Met Police, but if you were to read, sorry, apologies, my words are not great today. 3.2, this was a decision made back in 2003 by the Commissioner of Sir Mark Rowley. So based on just conversations that I've presently had with partners in terms of decisions that go make in terms of free time, they're still going through a process. But those questions have been asked, partners already. Okay, thank you very much. I'm going to invite Council Susan Masters in her role as a chair of scrutiny to present, you've got quite a wide pair of white persons. Thank you, Mayor. So when you're himself an adult social care scrutiny commission, the committee that I chair, decided to add this to our work program after concerns have been brought to us by a number of Councillors, worried that this change could disproportionately effect a borough like Newham, given our demographics and high levels of poor mental health. And it didn't help that no additional funds have been committed to mental health services to address this policy. Just to put a bit of flesh on the bones that Councillor Wilson has laid out for us today, the strategy has introduced a new triage process for calls involved involving people in mental health crisis. If there's an immediate threat to life or a crime being committed, the police still attend. But if what's being requested is a welfare check or the call relates to someone who's walked out of a treatment facility, the caller will be referred to another service. And this is based upon the premise that such instances are better served by trained mental health professionals. As a consequence of the concerns raised, we track the Metropolitan Police and local health partners through the run up to the introduction of this strategy, and then followed their experiences through the first few months of operation. As in Humberside, where the strategy was first employed, what we've seen is a huge drop in police deployments. Between October and November, the numbers dropped from 12,639 deployments down to 7,760. It was a relief for our committee to hear from health and care partners that they felt as Councillor Wilson has stated, they are working well for the Metropolitan Police, and that the change in strategy has been relatively smooth. There's been no spike in demand for local services, and there's even been a view expressed that a lower proportion of discharges are being witnessed from sectioning hubs, and that this might mean referrals are now more appropriate. What had turned us, however, as a committee, was the lack of monitoring of cases where the police had not been deployed. While those with lived experience of mental health crises are involved in police training processes, there seemed to be no attempt to track the experience of those for no longer being deployed to anywhere in the system. What data has been captured is purely London-wide, with no breakdown by borough or analysis for demographics. All the figures were recorded just the proportion of mental health-related calls to the police that have led to a deployment. Similarly, alternative support services such as the 111 phone line has no process for capturing whether callers have been referred over by the police. To this end, our commission will be continuing to advocate for better quality oversight, as the strategy continues through its first year and beyond, and asks Cabinet to note our report and, as Councillor Wilson suggested, to support us to achieve our aims through its leadership of multi-agency, partnership boards, including the Adult Safety Garden Board. Thank you very much. Colleagues, are there any questions that you may have with regards to scrutiny report or, let's say, executive public cover report on the scrutiny report? Thank you, Councillor for the colleague, I believe, from finance and resources. Thank you very much, Councillor Wilson and Councillor McMaster, for your comments. My only question is, clearly, this is not something that the Council has direct responsibility for, and reports say the Health and Wellbeing Board will be managing this. Am I right in assuming that this report will be going to Health and Wellbeing Board for them to note and then monitor? So, I imagine just in the context of the Health and Wellbeing Board, we'll receive the report, I think it is an important report, to bring and present a partners within the Health Partnership in Newham, and then leveraging our, once in advocacy, across the wider partnership, as it relates to the Integrated Care System in this part of northeast London, well, northeast, well, this part of northeast London, to to make the case, and also ongoing work with our police partners, I imagine also, just given the range of issues that the scrutiny report has identified, all of which are really important, these are matters that I think significantly warrant engagement at Pan-London level and with the GLA, and with the relevant deck team is for London, as appropriate, because there needs to be a connection within the wider ecosystem, and I will discuss with Neil and Jason as to put in it, but I know, Neil, you wanted to say something kind of Jason. Yeah, just very briefly, Chair, I mean, and I've given this, we're really short of Susan in other meetings, we've been having both of the Integrated Care Partnership, I'm right, Chair, that's a strategy setting. This has come up over the seven boroughs, constituent in the northeast London for part of causality, of course, where, you know, there's a regional health facility in my own ward, which, by definition, you know, mental health doesn't pop up borough boundaries, this is certainly clearly, particularly, I think, council masters, they've applied about resources issued, so the internet care partnership board obviously knows that the report that is very central to the right-airright person that went through the Integrated Care Partnership, which is a strategy thing that I sit on. Secondly, the Chair has rightly said that the Health and Wellbeing Board is a partnership board that will be seeing this as well, but the third tranche is that the Health and Wellbeing Chair's meeting under the Mayor or I attend, it is a Pan-London response, because clearly, the mentalities are certainly at the right level, I think, are very positive on how this might be operationally perceived, but we need to definitely make certain for a local or a command unit and other partners are equally appraised of it, so it's about, you know, having that right checks and balances, sorry, it's a long answer, but I think that's a short, those discussions have, as I've had about fine but integrate the care partnership or work here right with the person. Yeah, anything else you have on? Sorry, Jason. No, I'm sorry, it's the Newham Safe Learning Adults Board is really gripping this issue, and I would see that if we were concerned through that board around what we were seeing on the ground and we would escalate it through to the Health and Wellbeing Board, but actually it warrants the very close attention of the Safe Learning Adults Board, yeah, and that's what it has again. Yeah, thank you. Fine, any other questions? Councilor Magdalene? Thank you for letting me address Cabinet today, my first time. Councillor Wilson, I was wondering with regards to children and young people, does this approach by the Met and by social health, extent to young people and children? Do I say that? It's a really interesting point actually, because I was looking, when I was sort of writing my address and points I wanted to cover today at Cabinet, I noticed that in Humberside they'd specifically picked out children as being a separate case and point, and any calls involving children were picked out somewhere where the police would definitely deploy. That hasn't been done by the Met in the same way in London, but I think it's there by inference that if children, but it's not picked out and I think that's another area that should be adjacent. I mean, I alluded to, you know, there is the Mayor and I had, and Councillor Roo has attended recently, it's in actually the Southeast London facility within part of the building, in terms of families for children that have little mental health units on the side. It's very important that I think that there is, it's implicit, but not explicit, and we've had that conversation, seriously, in this race, because it's one for major policy areas under the integrate care part of the protection of young people, in terms of their health and information life, in terms of mental health. So, it's a very good question, but we'll... Thank you, it's really so lucky to have the call for you, you know. That's what I'm referring to. Let's get in half. Very good section of A&E. Exactly. Children and young people, that's one thing about it, it's a call now. It's a really good triage work done with both the new site, but also through the camp services, but it's about how, I think, Councillor Masters and I will also be looking, you know, live part this review process, as we, you know, the mayor is still learning on this, I think. Thanks. Yeah. So, I just need to undertake some formalities with regards to 14 and 13. So, colleagues, on the agenda item theme, if you could go to the recommendations in the attached report section and in the printed agenda packet, it's big page number 26. So, with regards to the capital of paper scrutiny report on the Metropolitan Police's introduction of the right care, white person model and new them. We're being asked to note the scrutiny report on white care rights based in particular, it sits in the 50s, put out in the power graph 3.4 below, and 2.2 agreed that while they support the recommendations, as none of them relate to council functions or are directed at council this table will comprise their executive response to the scrutiny report. Is that noted? Is that note agreed? Agreed. Is that all agreed? No, it's just because it sits in the white place, but it's white care, white person. So, just to arrive, make sure that we note in the white. So, just for the purposes of the report, there's a type of care, white clinic. We've white care, white person. Yeah. And then agenda item 13 is actually the scrutiny report, which we have just noted. But we have to formally note it again for the purposes of this paper. So, this is on big page number 237, scrutiny report, white care, white person, and the recommendations 2.1, but the right person scrutiny report be noted. Do we know that? That's a good note. Okay. Thank you very much. That's agenda item 13. Thank you very much. And I wish you well for the colleagues. I miss actually on the pinned item before there are some pointless changes in light of Councillor James Asa have been stepping away from the Council, but I'm needing to announce. So, I'm going to go back to agenda item

1. And then most that we've got Councillor Terri Paul, chair of the Local Plan Scrutiny Commission, and not wanting to expend too much of his time with them, I'm going to suggest the following that we take local plan matters first, and then go back to the rest of the agenda. I think that would be, I trust that will be appreciated by Councillor Terri Paul. So, what that means is that we've seen him having, well, with a gender item seen, the fees in the following order. So, agenda items will be taken as follows, agenda item 9 first, which is the Local Plan Commission Report, then agenda item 10, which is an effective response to the local plan, so we think the Commission will support. And we're going to take the agenda item 8, which is the Local Plan Regulation 19, and Regulation 18 Joint Waste Plan, because we should be taken sputally first and present that response, noting those formalities, we can then go into the substantive Regulation 19 Local Plan, and then we will go to a gender item 5, 6, 7, 4, 15, 16, 17 in that order, okay? And I will advise colleagues accordingly. Joy, is that okay? Brilliant, thank you very much. I will help maintain some clarity on that front. So, I'm going to go back to appointments to outside bodies, and these are outside body changes that I'd like to report following the departure of Councillor James Asa. So, these are as follows. Councillor Murad Patel becomes a member of the Lee Valley Regional Park Authority, as the new representative, and he is the designated deputy to that board. Councillor John Whitworth becomes a member of the City Airport Consultative Committee, and Councillor John Morris becomes a substitute member. Councillor Arma Verde becomes a member of the Local Government Association General Assembly. Councillor John Morris becomes a member of the East London Waste Authority, as a second member, and Councillor Zawfakar Ali becomes deputies for the London Council's Leaders Committee, and Councillor John Morris becomes a member of the London Council's Transport Environment Committee, with Councillor Murad Patel becoming deputy. Has that been noted, Joy? Okay. Thank you very much. That's fine. Right. So, now we're going to be going to agenda item 9. So, this is the both of the plan, Regulation 18, Scrutiny Commission Report, and it's important, I emphasize the Regulation 18. So, this was the version that went out for substantive consultation and responses, then subsequently informed the Regulation 19 version that's before us today at Cabinet, and I'm going to invite Councillor Taryll to be welcome only, and thank you so much. We've got five minutes. Thank you, Mayor, and first of all, thanks. Also, Mayor and Councillor, we were all engaged in the Q&A, and also more important to the officers from planning, but only answered that question, but a lot of time updating that on policy, and it seems a lot better, but in particular, we were learning a lot and really understanding some of the work, and some of the work, which is hidden. I would say, Mayor, it's a good work being done by regards to a lot of time, and that's for each meeting, I do want to thank you for that. Each meeting that's back in the last year, we've got the local plan document, which governments have released together in New York, and we conducted a very short discreet and focused piece of work, and understanding the participation of the local plan on the lives of residents. We looked at affordable housing, the housing meetings of residents, our student accommodation, place-based place for the worship, climate resilience, and flood protection. In New York, the plan does play a role in maintaining an environmental and laboratory community, and we felt it wasn't important to make some recommendations, which helped, and it's obviously amplified from the deaths of the mayor and the executive act to make the plan even better than what it is. In terms of our modification, we've subjected some work, some clarification, really, on affordable housing and affordable expenses, so that could be made much more open and transparent, and after an opportunity for the mayor and executive to actually communicate the rest of the work we're doing with the government. On the second recommendation, we've done a pleasure of worship, and obviously there was an aspect regarding the rhetoric in New York, and we felt that there's a really excellent fake forum, which is run over to control by the kinds of kinds of Canada, and we felt that was a really great forum to actually communicate what the local plan is. There's lots of, let's say, nourishment from various fake communities about how to learn from the planning and the worship, and it was a very simple thing to do, just using the extra contact of the fake forum, but we know that our fake communities are just perhaps using that as a number of vehicle to communicate about a local plan, and that would, it really creates a bit of fears, and sometimes misplace missions are what the local plan is trying to do. So we just felt using, if it's not, if it's not bright enough to fix it, I think it is the expression, we just felt that being excellent mechanism to use the fake forum to go out again, and but one of the things we found in our scrutiny, over a hundred years ago, our newest community was the Jewish community, but at that time, the East Ham and West Ham barrel provided these new barrel explains for those communities. I'm also, some of you may know, I'm Catholic educated, and so if you found that in the community, but to the bottom of my old school, we're situated in the Francis, and the reason why some bonds is now a forest gate, because one of the bright looked out from the top of the building, and saw in the distance a clear patch of land and field, and that was forest gate. So it enabled a Catholic church many years ago, a hundred years ago, to move out and have religious spaces because the land was all free. Now we don't have that, now we've got a school with sex, and our newer communities became the seeds, the Muslim community, we have to look at those communities, and it's a really good work which has been done, and if we welcome what the mayor has been doing to do the new barrel space study, I think it's really, really welcome, and again, using a separate condition in the fake forum as a vehicle to tell the communities what we're doing, we've found the way to do that. I mean, by the conclusion that the local bank document itself is the document, but the thing we would say is like what we're doing, we should use legacy networks to communicate to communities, and also to provide assurance that we are looking at their communities needs in the document. I commend our committee, I'm just in the bottom position, we found our officers are excellent in what they do, in terms of planning, we've done that a few years ago about planning, we've found that we've got some very good officers, and I would say that our officers, I don't mean to have a conversation about this, but the officers are very, very, very busy, and obviously they can't go out and communicate with the sign, but if we knew what they did and had some of the really good, innovative solutions they've got, which is one thing in front of them, there was a pretty simple, slight comment made that New York is under position for green space, it'd be one of the five, I think it was, and a really good response, one else was to reply, but in a lot of faulty applications, we should come through, we have plans in those applications between space, which together make a significant contribution, there are other innovative solutions officers that do it, even if I'm passive to get those out, thank you very, thank you very much. Thank you very much. So, are there any questions that colleagues to ask, Councillor Agnes for? Thank you, I have any questions, I think they have an inter-relative sign look, and just to say that we did arrange for a drop-in towards the end of this plan, unfortunately, I'm looking forward to that because of the political situation at the moment, but I think people were very interested and very keen to take part, so thank you, thank you. Okay, thank you very much, are there any other questions relating to the No? Okay, I'm going to invite, in the first instance, Councillor John Whitworth to just introduce the effective response to the scrutiny commission report, if you may, and then we'll take both of those items in terms of recommendations, there aren't any good questions, and I'll come back on some aspects, I'll please, that's okay, and then we'll open up, also want to bring in officers' excruity. Thank you, Chair. We very much appreciated the work of Councillor Paul and his task and finish group and their constructive proposals in their report, and we were happy really to give a very positive response to their recommendations. We underlined the commitment to 60% affordable housing on all sites, of which 50% of social rent. We also agreed to work with the the faith forum to contact all the faith groups and offer a specific meeting to just go through the local plan with them. And with regard to burials, we also agreed to commission the new environmental space study, which would review the provision and optimise really the resources available to find the burial space either within the boa or outside. So we were very happy that we could comply to the very positive task and finish scrutiny. Thank you very much. I mean, just really to add, and I will bring in the planning officers and thought you may want to contribute as well. On the burial space, as you will be aware that the process that we've been engaged with for a prolonged period of time. And it was just useful that the interest of the local plan scrutiny commission sort of aligned to an engagement that we were having in any case. There is a specificity with regards to how issues of community space as defined in national planning policy framework also encompasses places of worship. And I think it's really important that we don't cause confusion in the minds of the public by emphasising that planning policy should designate space specific places of worship because it can't. But no local plan can because of the current position of the national planning policy framework. So I would just be just for colleagues' attention to the recommendation to where it says with regards to places of worship, albeit the recommendation is about engagement. We just wanted to also clarify that in planning policy terms, there isn't within the framework of the national planning policy framework, specificity for places of worship, it's understood as community space. And then separate to that as a public body, be it not in a position to be resolved in any place of worship, of any domination of faith, because they're a public body. And I think that's something that gets quite it's certainly a dimension of conversations that myself and John and planning officers will have with representatives of places of worship and we're having to clarify. And that aside, it's been a really engaged and useful process for myself, John and planning officers and we've really welcomed the contributions and the consideration on part of scrutiny members with regards to the regulation rating version. Paul, is there anything you wanted to add otherwise I'll come to Jane and Ellie? Just briefly, man, just to update the various places studying work, I've been commissioned and would be expected to be concluded and published during the concentration of the local plan and tell us about us in a minute, and to save their blushes just to accept their praise for them, working through half a process, we'll come on for about an hour to date to the founding process exclusively really helpful and constructive, and so thank you for the spirit in which to our exercise function. Okay, brilliant. So absolutely, and I should say colleagues, the new local plan team has been commended with an award and it's very exceptional that they've got this award within the body of national planners because of the work of the regulation 18 consultation, they got awarded the planning team with the best public engagement on local plan consultation, and I think on a broader point, a lot of things could be better communicated and amplified in terms of what the council is doing and what the administration is doing and that's something that Adrian is very alert to and would and is very keen to ensure that we do that, obviously within the constraints of the resource that we've got as it relates to campaigning research, marketing, and collateral because that was also a recommendation of scrutiny during the budget working, budget working party process of reducing those budget lines. So I want to just be mind that I just want to emphasize, you know, as much as you make the appeal and the plea that we should, you know, amplify all the great work the planning team are doing, we are constrained with resources as a consequence of a scrutiny recommendation on budgets. Ellie Jane, over to you, is there anything you wanted to add as it relates to the scrutiny local plan regulation 18 paper and recommendations and our executive response? I don't think so, just to repeat what Paul said really, you know, thank you very much for the engagement of the overview and scrutiny committee. They did a thorough job of examining the plan and thanks also for the effort that Ellie and her team have put in and thank you to members for acknowledging that. The process of developing the local plan and getting to reg 19 stage has been really valuable in terms of engaging with members and also new residents in various groups to really sort of find out what people want of us as a planning service and I think we've got a good document as a result of it and for the scrutiny recommendations we have been able to incorporate those within the next version of the plan. So the timing of the scrutiny committee worked well for us. That's all I want to say. I don't know if you've got anything too bad, Ellie. No, nothing significant to add but really appreciate the time and effort that went into the scrutiny commission and also some of the pertinent points. I'm glad that some of that dialogue has kind of landed with Councillor Paul and it's nice to hear the reflection back on the parks and the open spaces and some of those key messages that we can draw out during this consultation phase to make sure that residents hear about the kind of positive elements that the plan can really deliver for Newham. Thank you very much. My final comment just wanted to commend the scrutiny in the chair of the local plan, scrutiny for the wonderfully designed local plan, scrutiny commission report and what impressed and hope to see many more of these well-designed reports. Could you please convey our collective thanks and appreciation. It's a delight to see actually they're well done to everyone. Okay, so colleagues, I'm going to take each paper for us to note and approve the recommendations. So the first one is the local plan and just as an aside, regulation 18 scrutiny commission report 2024 and we're being asked as the recommendations for the reasons set out in the report and its appendices. Cabinet is recommended to note local plan, scrutiny commission report and recommendations and agree the executive response. Is that agreed? Regents. That's agreed to me. And then going on to agenda item 10, that's the executive response report and recommendations of the local plan task and finish scrutiny commission and the recommendations set out on big page number 182 for the reasons set out in the report and its appendices. Cabinet is recommended to note the executive response report and recommendations of the local plan task and finish scrutiny commission March 2024. Is that the agreed? Regent. Regent. Thank you very much. You're more than welcome to say for the debate and discussion around the local plan, but you're also more than welcome to if you should. Yeah. All right, so colleagues, we're going to now move on to agenda item 8, which is regulation 19 local plan and regulation 18 joint waste plan. And my self and work will be doing the introductions and we will then be passing on to the officer colleagues. And I do want to, from the outset, note from the record, the personal banks of myself and Council John Whitworth for the hard work of both our chief planner Jane Customs, especially Elly Cooper Thomas. This has been no mean feat and it's been no mean feat in the context of Eddie stepping into the organisation as we were mobilising towards the publication of the regulation 18 version. And please do not underestimate the amount of work that's gone in and the range of evidence based reports that have to be commissioned, the range and complexity of different data sets that need to be understood alongside needing to be really, really diligent as to changes as it relates to the national planning policy framework, not that there'd be many, but there are a lot of emerging thinking and thoughts from the current government, even though we're in an election, which I can't talk much about. And I just wanted to say thank you, Elly and Jane for doing this on our thanks to the wider planning policy team because they're one in a million. They are an absolutely vital resource for our borough and actually even using the term resource doesn't give credit to the absolute dedication and passion that individuals that choose to work in them because they don't have to. And because there's a battle for talent going on, but they choose to work in them and to help us advance our participation for the borough and our people. So on that front, thank you once again. So we're presenting the significant step towards finalising our local plan for the borough. And this is the Regulation 19 version and we have such a fundamental impact in the future of noon in its physicality as a place and spatially once we go through the subsequent steps and eventually the final local plan will be brought to full council for an adoption. And the process as mentioned briefly began way back in 2018 as some of you may recall at December 2018 for council meeting, we were tasked with adopting the then local plan which had had its own five-year development journey in the preceding years prior to December 2018. But we knew that there would be limitations to that local plan because it wasn't in conformity to the vision of the new administration at that point. So I announced that we were going to be undertaking a review of the local plan with regards to updating it and it's not unusual once you've bed an adopt a local plan, the process to commit that plan stuff much immediately. So the London plan has adopted in 2021 is already going through its review and we anticipate at some stage subject to the outcome of the general election the national planning policy framework will be updated as well and that will have implications to all local plans. What subsequently happened following that December 2018 meeting there was a period of gathering the evidence base and there's a lot that's undertaken with specialists experts also consultations then it was dumped into the period of Covid-19 so things had to pull somewhat but we were all there waiting for the conclusion of the London plan development which was published in its final form in the autumn of 2021 and then we were able to accelerate as part of a review of the new and local plan process and we completed the baseline evidence work and we accelerated following the publication of the London plan in 2021 it was actually early 2021 our conclusion of our review process of that phase and in October 2020 will be those members of the cabinet you'll recall that we endorse the issues and options document which set out detailed engagement with residents selected members and local stakeholders and through that extensive engagement we've gathered a diverse range of views and aspirations that have then informed the regulation 19 version and we also engaged as valid partners our scrutiny colleagues so thank you very much once again for that. There are a number of key things in the regulation 19 plan and it will be going out of consultation for an eight-week period it won't be able to go out for consultation until after the general election concludes and subject to feedback from the big late 19 phase of consultation which is not about completely rewriting the regulation 19 it's primarily to identify if there's anything that we've missed is of such fundamental planning nature and then we will be moving towards submission to the inspector and then it will go through quite a testing examination period but key policies and outcomes in the plan aiming to deliver 51,425 to 53,784 new homes by 2038. We have set a 50% social rent target per site reflecting the 11th December fall council motion. We've embedded the co-design in the plan's development and as a key requirement for large scale projects and community facilities. We've designated zones for total buildings they transport and local amenities. We're creating well-connected neighbourhoods by enhancing shopping employment community facilities improving walking cycling connections and adding new shopping areas. We're introducing a new burial space policy. We're allocating land for seven new schools including two special educational needs health centres, leisure centres, parks and additional play and grown spaces. We're supporting two new DLR stations upgrading Stratford station and ensuring step three access to all stations. We're requiring buildings to reduce energy use and generate on-site solar energy with added focus on embodied carbon and set for economy. And alongside the regulation 19 local plan we're also presenting the first draft of the new joint waste plan which also forms part of the council's development plan. The one additional thing that I'd like to draw colleagues attention to which you'll see in the executive introduction we've been working alongside other local planning authorities with our colleagues at the LLDC. As many of you will be aware we will be receiving our planning powers as it relates to the part of known that county sits in the geography of the London Legacy Development Corporation. That will be happening at the end of this year. One area of the work that the LLDC planning team has been undertaking is how we make spaces safe for women and girls and there is a really important dimension of a gender-based approach to our planning policy that's been integrated into the regulation 19 version and I would very much encourage colleagues to consider those aspects and one of the things that I will be just with officer colleagues is whether as an addendum to the local plan regulation 19 once published that document could also be included or be it we have covered of but I wanted to draw colleagues particular attention to that. So going back to the joint waste that's been prepared by the East London waste authorities which include four principal boroughs, Newham, Redbridge, Haven, Barkin and Dagenham. We've been working collaboratively until the joint waste plan ensures it reflects up to date strategic objectives including sustainable waste management and climate goals in line with our just transition action plan. So today we're going to be seeking approval for two key documents. The draft submission document is building a very new local plan regulation 19 and draft consultation joint waste plan regulation 18 and that will subsequently go through its next phases in a similar vein to the local plan. If approved these documents will be leased for public consultation. Now just to clarify on the waste plan joint waste plan the consultation period is six weeks as would ordinary be the regulation 19 version six weeks but because of the general election there's going to be an extension of the local plan regulation 19 consultation to eight weeks and I will just seek clarification as to whether or not the joint waste plan will require an additional extension by two weeks to eight weeks and then following the public consultation the joint waste plan will be revised and subject to another consultation i.e. the regulation 19 version and then the regulation like 19 version of the local plan will be finalized and submitted to the planning expector for examination and then we'll be keeping or cabinet the wider executive and members and the public updated includes members from scrutiny and we will be doing quite a lot of amplification around this in terms of our communications subject to discussions with Adrian and the team but what I would say is probably the most important place spatial document for our borough in terms of the place vision we have for our neighbourhoods our places our parks and actually critical to the borough that we want our residents to be living in a place where their health will be in an happiness forefront where our response to the climate emergency through just transition actions is again at the forefront where we place a value in a premium on the livability of Newham as a place we're developing the resilience and where we also place a a premium on the experience of our children and people because we want new as placement for them to grow up i'm going to conclude there i'm going to invite council john Whitworth to say some remarks i'll pause over to officer colleagues and then we'll open up to questions john thank you chair well i'd just like to add to the to what the mayor has said about the importance of the local plan to achieve our major well a number of our major building a fair and new objectives and it's worth underlining some of these objectives that the local plan will enable us to achieve namely for instance delivering genuinely affordable housing which people can afford which will include a pushing private developers to offer more housing which people need tackling the climate emergency to meet our 2030 carbon neutral and 2045 urban zero plans proven equality the air that our children and residents breathe enabling more more transport and more sustainable transport options so that streets are friendly for our children young people and all our other residents building an inclusive economy to tackle poverty and inequality and increase in with investment that leads to sustainable jobs ensuring our borough supports the potential of our young people enabling them to thrive and succeed great in well-connected neighborhoods with a premium on well-designed places that are safe and promote health and well-being through more green spaces respecting the diversity of our people and the richness of newham as an inclusive community which respects all the ethnicities cultures and faiths and a borough that is confident about its future and its people future-proofing newham for the impact data and technology we'll have on our lives and i would also like to add something that is mentioned in section 5-2 that in order to achieve these ambitious objectives we may need greater legislative latitude to enable us to do this which may entail us campaigning to obtain this so this is something to bear in mind as we are campaigning council we may need to campaign we're unable to us to realize all these objectives in the local plan thank you very much um office of colleagues uh mayor councilor i think you've accomplished this out why we need to do it what we should do it how it aligns with the rest of the organization's policies but so Kelly or Jane are any other technical points you'd like to introduce before we go to the questions uh no i mean i think i would just say echo what councilor with worth and the mayor have said um because i think all too often a local plan is seen as a document just for planners and it absolutely isn't that um it is obviously a key document that we use in assessing planning applications but as the mayor and councilor bitworth has said it is also a way to campaign and work with partners to leverage funding for the infrastructure that we so badly need um to support growth because you know otherwise i think um it's difficult to say what our council's priorities are and um what additional funding should be for so i think this gives us a really good um basis to work towards um providing the future for new and that you as members all want thank you thank you very much um Ellen i was just going to add on those questions you mentioned so in terms of the work that we've done on um kind of spaces that are welcoming um for girls and the kind of gender and women and gender lens to planning i think when we looked at it the LLDC publication date for that piece of work wasn't going to quite work but the general election might have helped us out there and so we will be able to publish it alongside the rest of our evidence base in july and in terms of the joint waste plan and there's a bit of a discussion going on with the other boroughs about how long that consultation should end up being but it's likely to be around seven weeks which would take into account the bank holidays um during that kind of summer period extending the statutory six-week period to take that into account that period of consultation is likely to start later than for the local plan until end later in september so we'll give a bit more of a leeway anyway in terms of being beyond the kind of traditional holiday period then thank you very much um open up to questions any questions colleagues Councillor Nill Wilson yes thank you very much uh more uh sort of deliberation rather than the question but four, seven rightly uh highlights that there's an integrated impact and as i think we we've alluded to throughout this project this is a living document it's far more alive than it ever has been since time after the council i remember we had volumes of about 3000 pages or something coming to happen that so it's been open it's been transparent the important point about that independent impact assessment is it's developed alongside this draft local plan in continuity assessing how to check it and possibly possible alternative options so within that integral to the process is a healthy impact statement with a systematic approach to projecting general health and well-being impact as the the chair has already outlined but also the very important points about enhancing positive effects on health reducing our own and eliminating negative effects and reducing health and social inequalities PSP administration throughout in terms of its health well-being and happiness agenda and then the uh point on the bullet point at bottom of page 141 uh allocating land for the the seven news scores but also including health centers leisure centers and parts very important as both council with work they're mentioned about the whole integrated one council approach that we should adopt that it is not just a young people but also an increasingly elderly population but also anybody with any needs to have their needs acknowledged in terms of both leisure facilities and our terms of people with learning disabilities or physical disabilities whether it says all both and it's the last point chair is that I think it is you know this is I think the nation and council with what they do to it under five two if we've got a priority for a healthy renewable aging wealth obviously the last uh page 146 under that section improving accessibility and quality of health care facilities and services meet growing demands health care as that population increases just to reassure those watching but also to to reiterate I know the offices are very well at the where at this that any plan does need to look into the context of increasing population needs particularly people living in honor but also the general population increase that there's already been um reviewed in terms of the health partners that we've had some consultation about projections on that so I know that's feeding into the process but I think it's just a flag that I've chosen for. Okay um can I just set a response from either Eddie or Jane with regards to that? Do you do you want to answer really? Sure I mean I think um you know those are all absolute um factors that have been considered as part of the development of um of the plan and I think one other thing to highlight in this vein is the um introduction of this new concept of a social value health impact assessment that we will be requiring um certain developments to undertake so that not only has the plan been assessed in terms of its health impacts and its ability to improve health but also produce any potential unhealthy factors but the individual applications will be looking um will be looking for individual applications to do the same and we've been really supported by our public health colleagues in this regard and so just again a thanks to them you know absolutely a massive thanks to my team but also acknowledge that there were huge kind of number of colleagues across the council who fed into this document and fed into the evidence base and it's been you know just like the plan is um encompasses so much that we're looking to achieve as a council that's meant it's had to rely on a huge number of colleagues across the council to feed in and shape the document as well so big thank you to them too. Brilliant thank you very much. I was just going to say I think it's worth adding that um at the moment we've got um some good policies in the emerging plan and once we finish the Red 19 consultation we'll be able to start giving those unconscious ones some weight so we will then be in a position where we can require these integrated health impacts assessments which I think will be a really positive step forward and there are other policies within the plan um such as those we've been working with um housing on um trying to um see how planning can support with the um temporary housing crisis so you know thanks again to Eddie's team but also to everybody else in the council who's helped us develop the plan it has been a really positive experience so we know. Thank you no it's okay don't worry council's off at Ali's. Thank you chair and kind of first of all thank you yourself as we're all and indeed officers for this tremendous amount of work that's going on to get us to this state so rather than to you um clearly this is something that's very important it's going to be you know something that will be driving us in future and it's good to hear that the design to ensure that we maximize investment in the borough. Just a couple of quick quick questions first is back consultation it's going to begin and forth in July and I just wondered whether due to the holiday period etc etc is that something that we could extend to ensure that we give people every opportunity to be engaged with the process if they would like to do so and secondly uh you know this is a very rapidly chaining borough with the demographic chaining on a daily basis just like some assurance that the document is is fully uh sort of you know catering for a future needs in terms of you know the way the borough is changing both in terms of the development as well as the demographic and thirdly I just hope that the the feedback from the the past to consultation as well as any analysis of the previous planning decisions um has been used reasonably well to inform what the future policy should be and my particular reference here is to with regard to extending the down center boundaries so that people actually understand that the boundaries for example precisely north where does the town center stop because I think people need to have a better understanding of you know where what is the town center because we've had instances in the past where the boundary stopped halfway through and people put development planning obligations didn't go through because that's where the boundary ends so I just feel a bit of diagonal assurance right um I'll come to that um if I made first um just in terms of the boundary designations there's been quite a thoughtful process that's been undertaken precisely because of the issues that you've cited but no considered process will ever be able to mitigate against these types of issues emerging and it's a case of ensuring that we're explaining and we're clarifying and we're clearing our communications around the local plan and what it means for each neighborhood and it also means the resident local businesses will have to accept and go through a process of understanding because we're not because the process leading up to the boundary designations and the specificities of what can happen within a particular area have gone through quite a long process they've had every single opportunity to engage and what doesn't help the planning team and certainly what is can be um you know what can be at times difficult to convey to applicants and sections of the community that want to see a particular type of development uh for both me and John working from the member lead end is explaining quite a complex process so I think your point understood very well it's a case of being really clear once we get to the final publication of the local plan but there has been just by way of assurance like a detailed process involving ward counselors as well um Eddie did you want to respond any further to that bit? Absolutely so I think actually one of the fundamental issues that residents and other stakeholders have currently is that we only have a static policies map on pdf which is incredibly hard to read so in terms of understanding where your home or your business or your piece of land sits in the borough it can be quite hard to understand which policies apply for the regulation 18 plan and for the now now the regulation 19 plan there is an interactive online map we can switch on and off layers and you can zoom in and you will you know really be able to clearly see the boundaries but as the mayor says we have gone through a process to look exactly at those challenges and in light of our commitment to well connected neighborhoods and making sure that residents um all residents in the borough live within a short walk from a range and a choice of shopping locations we have extended a number of our designations or created new ones and there is a standalone little evidence document that outlines exactly what those changes have been so there will be a useful document that people can be pointed to as well on that point yeah all right fine are there any other questions colleagues no oh council shall I ask one I think it's really really great that you know we we're asking developers to give more to social housing tenants and I think it's great and the other thing was about um increasing more family homes but one of the things you know when I used to sit on the planning committees were really concerned is about poor doors where we always had social tenants going in one one side and more affluent tenants going into an abba and I think we're a borough of social inclusion wouldn't have been all our people together is that something that we're going to be lucky that uh in in this plan it is yes there is there's an interesting balance to be struck here I think there is a there's a challenge in terms of how houses are managed and in terms of how social landlords who take on those affordable homes um want to be able to um manage them separately um as part of a separate management company to the management company that manages the private homes so on occasion it can be more suitable for the RSL for there to be separate entrances but absolutely those entrances should not be distinguishable and that's what the planning policy now has some quite strict guidelines around that you know it shouldn't be identifiable as an entrance for social tenants that looks in any way different to the entrance to for um market tenants um and the other aspect we're looking at in regards to this is thinking about how facilities which are provided within new housing developments are accessed so there shouldn't be any prevention of social tenants accessing those facilities um albeit that would require a kind of membership model that people get to opt in rather than it being part of the service charge where it can be um prohibitively expensive and for that to be included as part of the social tenant package but it's how we come up with ways in which we can manage that the challenge of ensuring the homes remain affordable to manage and affordable in terms of service charge but that um it doesn't feel like a kind of differential or discriminatory experience thank you for that yeah okay cool um right so colleagues i'm going to suggest that we move on to the recommendations thanks once against um Ellie Ellie Ellie and Jane right okay so colleagues bear with me um so the regulation 19 local plan um and regulation 18 joint waste plan and this is the recommendation set out in big page number one three five the reason set out in 2.1 for the reason set out report and its appendices cabinet is recommended to agree the following 2.1.1 the publication of the noon draft submission local plan and associated policies map with an end date of 2038 attached as appendix one a six week period of stats through public consultation with an anticipated start date at some point july 2020 2.1.2 to delegate authority of the corporate director of inclusive economy houses and culture following consultation with the mayor as a leave member to finalize the noon draft submission local plan including any minor amendments prior to public consultation and to make the required arrangements for statutory public consultation in accordance with the consultation strategy attached as appendix two and 2.1.3 the publication of the draft joint waste plan and associated policies map attached as appendix three for at least a six week period of statutory public consultation with an anticipated start date at some point july 2024 2.1.4 delegate to delegate authority to the corporate director of inclusive economy housing culture following consultation with the mayor as the member to finalize the waste plan prior to public consultation and to make the required arrangements for statutory public consultation in accordance with the consultation protocol attached as appendix four 2.1.5 the publication for local development scheme 2024 attached as appendix five 2.2 as to note the context of the noon draft submission local plan integrated impact assessment attached as appendix six 2.2.2 the context of the new local plan regulation 18 consultation report attached as appendix seven 2.2.3 the context of the draft joint waste plan integrated impact assessment attached as appendix eight and the draft joint waste plan habitat regulation assessment attached as appendix nine is that all noted and agreed didn't it thank you very much right okay now we're going to be going through the remaining cabinet papers so we're going to be doing it in this order five six seven eleven twelve yep five six seven eleven twelve and then we've got just to note 15 16 17 which are apprentices and exclusion of press and public right merchants yard council Zofka Ali inviting you to thank you thank you very much here and I don't need to remind the cabinet that we have the greatest need for the temporary accommodation and we have over 36 000 people on the waiting list and six and a half plus in the temporary accommodation and the numbers are sadly rising aside the council is doing its best endeavors to do all it can to reduce the the temporary accommodation cost as well as the consequentially impact are of this on the overall council's financial position along with many other the third initiative by cabinet colleague council Shabam Ahmed and housing service are undertaking acquisition program is one of those means to support the impact of the temporary accommodation and gave our local residents accommodation with which would deserve respect and dignity aside this report seeks approval of the cabinet to purchase a freehold interest in 62 units scheme at merchant yarn and that is based in North Street Runford in the number of habering it is owned by developer IP who are reputable ones all units are being built to high quality standards and specification and incorporate high energy efficiency standards with high EPC and most of these units have amenity space As per the agreed acquisition protocol habering council have been notified about the proposed purchase high along with the council Shabam Ahmed have written to our counterparts in habering and we have had not no adverse response may i say that we do have the housing placement policy on temporary accommodation and i'm pleased to say that this proposal doesn't need the requirement because on public transport it would take 55 minutes where our policy says one other the proposed purchase is 62 units as i said 19 of which are one bed 39 two bed and four of them are three bedrooms i would like to say to you that we do recognize that they need for larger properties to meet the demands and this is something that we're always conscious of so that we can maximize any opportunity where possible however the tea costs are having a substantial impact and there's also an ongoing need for one bedroom and two bedroom therefore anything we can get is beneficial in order to reduce the cost and that's what we're doing but we will be we are continuing to be vigilant in terms of making sure that we get larger property and we'll do those as we are purchasing this involved we are getting some commercial discount and i'm pleased to say that we have undertaken a formal evaluation that has also demonstrated that the purchase price delivers value for money and it is it's giving good return in terms of the the 50 year investment in terms of cash flow as well as delivering a sort of 7.7 as you will note in the report internal rate of return which is higher than the cost of capital which is currently 5.5 percent so this does demonstrate that the investment is financially viable um you may say that we buying CTT units quite large and what happens if the accommodation needs you know the tea requirement goes down which is very unlikely in the near future but if it does we do have the option to either at least them or sell them into private people and so with those words here i will ask the cabinet to approve the recommendation as set on the section three unless the Conrad or Allah would like to add anything further there is to say as Conrad says the acquisition meets the financial matrix of each set for the program so if i'm not controlling the sets but i'll use some of that later on the transaction is online you can take any detailed questions from this later yeah cool so are there any questions colleagues no right okay so colleagues can i just invite you to look at the recommendations set out on pages 24 to 25 um so those 1 3.1 all the way through to 3.1.4 and just note that it's in consultation with the lead member for finance and corporate services as well as the lead member for housing management on modernization which is basically counts the shafts hammed yeah okay fine is that agreed agreed agreed thank you very much now moving on to agenda item six this is peer road and site for section 106 year in the lateral undertaking and land and colleagues i'm going to basically just do i'm going to basically pass this on to paul answer paulkitson paulkitson offer motion paulkitson um must be on the flight path for success to a stuff here right okay paul would you like to introduce this and then we'll go to the recommending comments if that's okay sure thank you i'm not going to rise to the base members colleagues but um this is um relative and straightforward cabinet of course previously approved that two housing development schemes appear on this progress which have been delivered to the populace so this is a formal request for approval sent in for a unilateral undertaking which is um um developed often when the uh council and organization usually always accounts really but the development planning authority former approval to get that into that agreement the costs of entering into that agreement which is the legal costs including the viability therefore this comes already made the financial decision to do that um and the contribution to the developments of um the homes you have to see for one and four two two i also include the viability and assessments for the approach of the scheme so that's straightforward as the place to enter into the unilateral undertaking of the elements schemes can proceed okay please any questions no all right fine i'm going to just so invite you to note the recommendations that are set out on pages 35 and 36 um do we agree maybe it's agreed thank you very much and now moving on to the raw Victoria got some bridge and colleagues um i'll just do a quick introduction then i'm going to be inviting um fits in again today sorry could i propose that we take this item in private what be item um item in royal Victoria doctor so i will take it in private but i do need to introduce it in public yeah okay fine yeah okay fine um actually if that's the case let me take any papers yeah right so a 11 a dead item 11 optimizing resident independence through social care do you want to introduce this yeah thank you very much so Councillor Neill Wilson remember come on that hot social care now the current adult since our framework of reading of my home care has been very successful as outlined in mind but which you can read on one note seven exit window we are very good at keeping our residents at home with 11 percent better than the England average we're 15 percent better than our nearest statistical neighbors in this and we're spending 4.9 million less per annum than the median average of our nearest principal age but and we're ranked 16th value for money for younger adult users and 3 out of 16 older adults uh the majority of our providers appointed to the agreement are CQC rated good but i need to at this point say that we use CQC rating as a baseline measure and we don't ever want to be just reliant on their judgments we do have other review process which i'm sure Lydia can talk to and if that's necessary chair to come in on that um travel at 24 providers are based in new home and it's important note that 75 percent of the care workers are new and residents the majority of which women of ethnic minority heritage i think we need to keep emphasizing this social care has got such some bad threats and i don't want to veer into the political but it's clearly across all political parties about the current status so it's important to note that this is contribution to our community wealth building 98 percent of the residents have been supporting by the agreement in no in nobody control over standard service quality 80 percent they are satisfied with their own service as currently provided and the trust of the thessa model has enabled prescription non-complex community services to identify the residents that give some swift access to what they need and it negates a need for waiting for an occupational therapy referral and in fact you have supported 31 residents to save the 157 hours of care and support a week achieving savings of what you've noted in that point there and the proposals in this paper aim to enhance on that success by making subtle changes to the model and the proposal to operate a dedicated reablement lot in other words making certain that there's reable when this isn't even more of a reality and and to have an all-aged lot working towards the cabinet think to have an all-aged approach to disability and to name the independence and their two-aged lots the specialist once plus reserve will enable residents to receive a consistent service from show child to adult board and in that regard i'm really pleased about the fact that one tonight i'd like to bring in my body councilor who is to talk to how the adults health and community director are able to achieve more consistent based approach on the trusted assessor model under 18 uh cohort as well okay thank you very much Neil this is um really uh an interesting development for us you'll think that we think most times people assume that home care is only around older people for an actual fact significant number of children and families receive home care support by working together on this it will will mean that actually the um transition from children's into adults but hopefully become smoother um because sometimes when you drop off the edge of a gauge 24 25 you can get up quick enough so um i i mean we in children's services really welcome this um and look you know we can only work together to improve the services that we're offering to our children and families yeah okay did you want to say anything in response no no no that's fine i i'll just go to questions or if you do you want to write anything at this point okay cool um right are there any other questions questions okay councilor cannon and Easter and then councilor muddling so i'll be pointing thank you i'm one of the representative councilors well out but what um but i've lived in near and more my life and our family has been the recipient of care one way or another over the years um which has not always been a consistent quality so i would like to ask how are we going to ensure that quality is maintained in this uh venture and also how can we ensure equity in front of the bar um royal albuses are walled which so often people forget it falls off um and uh i'd like to sort that our residents there will be sure if it's equally good quality okay thank you thank you very much thank you and then pass can i i'm just gonna last little to respond to that and then if required we'll go to officers okay paragraph four five rightly says that the agreement separates the baroge rapidly to package it for each patch to lead provide a responsible for delivery of relevance service in that and it's safe in that reserve provided for providing additional capacity if required for a two rightly addressed to see the points played by um and in in the past there were challenges supporting residents who lived in victims or all dogs via the previous arrangement the model does actually look at really the service that is enabled to be delivered effectively to residents regardless of where they live so we're um making certain that the model has got some efficiencies built in by reducing the amount of time it takes care workers are driving often is a a negating effect on the quality and enables creation more more notably embedded service aligns with the director of snakewood operating model and i think Lydia has mentioned before that often the care workers are known to very people that they are serving and it's a bright model of service so is reassuring it's confident building it makes certain that people taking people into their own homes that are dealt with in a more efficient but also a more um holistic approach thank you yeah okay cool right are there any other questions i've got council and Madeline sign in prompting that's sorry thank you ma'am um councilor wilson first well i want to say how fantastic it is that my percent of care workers are new residents and how reassuring i know it is um within my own family to know that when care is required but our relatives that uh it will be done undertaken or three quarters of the workforce will be appears from within the buffer which is lovely to see that they're reassuring um what i did want to ask and you know it builds on councilor we as i said uh is that how will you be ensuring that adult care and will ensure this transition care and support for those 24/25 you know it's coming across into your service yeah i mean on paragraph thank you very much on paragraph for 11 there's a specific reference to the uh very often underestimated um children and young people's service to me domicillate but i can't say that well you know domicillary care i always struggle but the children younger people's service has also one of these uh director just being from the DPP in place to but you purchase home care for children and young people that is due to end in first of May next year so any one providers have been admitted to into that and six are appointed to adults and health so it's continuity of where it's looking at under 4.13 two different contractual arrangements that uh we uh if we have two different contractual arrangements it undermines the adults health and community's director its ability to influence the strength but it causes disruption it had duplication of effort because it's frustration so this is a far more joined up continuity of care and it will be as it has said in 4.12 children young people's service spend 3.8 million pounds per annum's 40 around 230 residents there was collected with 3,600 hours of care we hope will make certain that there's smooth transitions transitions is a national issue and i think both Sarah and i would agree that it's been the subject of about my exclusion in commission but we've had about that's very need to make this a smooth transition because that's i think we've said in other places people have fought out assisting different criteria or different continuities of care packages and they're very vitally received and i think well received Sarah you know is is what's been what's been the feedback from the children young people themselves as well yep okay fine i'm going to suggest that we move on because we've got quite a lot of stuff to get through are there any other questions no i just paid tribute to Lydia and the team and i've worked on it yeah thank you very much Lydia um right so just looking at the recommendations on big page number 189 um that's agenda i turn page number 189 for the reasons set out in the report cabinet is asked to agree uh 3.1.1 per cure multi-category dtv for social care assessments with the term of four years with the option to accept for further four years as an estimated annual value of up to 6.3 million pounds and that's 50.4 million over the eight years for noon the value is up to 900 000 per annum and that's 7.2 million over the eight years and then 3.1.2 delegate the 40s the corporate director for adult health and communities in consultation with cabinet member health and adult social care so the MIP providers onto the DBB that meet the minimum quality standards in the first round and throughout the life of the DPP 3.1.3 delegate the 40s corporate director of adults health communities in consultation with a cabinet member for health and adult social care for approved commencement of many competitions under the DPV and award contracts once the DPV is established so the reason i've paused is because i didn't realize we had a corporate director for adults health and communities do we yes it's adults in health that's not a formal title it's corporate director for health and adult social care could we just get that changed so it will be needed to be changed in the recommendations and 3.1.4 extend the children's and young people services DPV for home care from the 1st of June 2024 the 11th of the 7th 2024 given that we're now on the 4th of June someone advised me whether a recommendation that has a past date to still valid it's some big patient number 189 it can't make a decision on a date that's been violated I would have mentioned that what do you may have in terms of the data sending the children's yeah so the children's DPV has now lapsed by a couple of days and the intention is to extend it so that it aligns with the end date of the adults framework agreement to enable us to then do the next recommendation to procure the longer arrangement moving forward so can can I just have a clear date so right now it says extend the children's young people services DPV for home care from the 1st of the 6th 2024 to the 11th of the 7th of June 2021 it should be 25 sorry that's my fault is it the 1st of the 6th 2025 yes it's for that month it runs out on the 31st of main mission right apologies so right extend the children's and young people's services DPV for home care from the 1st of June 2025 yeah to the 11th of July 2025 yeah so that it glem telling signs with the new contract the year was wrong yeah was right okay so we've got that corrected i'm 3.1.5 procure new multi-block all-age ILSS light touch framework agreement with initial term four years with the option to extend for up to four years in two year extension periods maximum term eight years at an estimated annual value of 31.8 pounds that's 254.4 million pounds over the eight years 3.1.6 the transfer of 500 000 pounds held in the budget for the implementation of the London living wage to children young people services to enable the adults in health ILSS rate to be paid to providers awarded an all-age contract noting the opportunities for savings in an all-age approach okay taking to account the corrections on 3.1.2 3.1.3 and 3.1.4 where on 3.1.2 it's corporate director for health and adult social care as with 3.1.3 and then 3.1.4 the year is changed to 2025 for both instances is that clear yes okay do we agree we agree okay thank you very much 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