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• Thank you very much Martin, that's a wonderful document. Decorations of interest from colleagues, members on the committee for anything on the agenda today. Professor Sandford.
• I have to declare interest in two items on the agenda. One's the casting as your charger, and the other is the 'cade. In both cases I only have conversations with the parish council and the process, I have no peculiar interest in either.
• I think that recudes you from, I don't know if I even did it. I'll blow you off for you to thank him. anybody else? No? OK. In that case then we have the minutes of the last meeting. I wasn't here so apologies for not doing that, thank you.
• I don't think I actually put a scroll at the bottom of the very minutes.
• Right, so we'll go through it as normal, there's two pages, page one and page two. If you have any, where is the minutes, as read, as written, please let me know. No, and it will take that as an affirmation of being OK to approve, thank you very much. Agenda item number four. Public questions.
• Those received this time.
• It's a shame because of the several thousand, obviously, we have at the end of the meeting. One of them could have come up with a question for us, but anyway, OK. That and agenda item number five which is chest grants. At this point, I don't talk any more. Good? Emma does. So over to Emma, thank you very much.
• Thank you. We received six applications for the community chest this month, including biodiversity and the cost of living application, totaling 10,662.39 pence. On page nine, we'll go on to Gamlingay Leisure, so which as you'll know provides gym use, multi-use games area facilities and fitness classes to those in Gamlingay and the surrounding areas. Today, they're actually celebrating the second anniversary of reopening. They have three years remaining on the lease. They hold that with the Pam Academy Trust. This lease contains a 10 year plan for a sinking fund to cover the cost of placing the gains area surface. So they're confident that this will be renewed in three years time. What they do is replace their broken old chest press and dual chest press and shoulder press. Total project costs 2,800 plus VAT and £1,750 being requested from the community chest. Gamlingay Leisure will self fund the balance. The parish council provided funding for a set of dumbbells last year totalling £495. They have been asked for further contribution, but as yet, they've not received a formal response. We have support from councilor. Colleagues, any questions regarding this? Points of order. Comments? Just in the back of my mind, there was an issue around the mugger. He simply was there about them running out of money or being bankrupt or something. I've sort of come to the back of my mind somewhere and I wondered whether it was relevant. It could well be. So, yeah. OK, since there's no comments, can I take that from, and it's John, you got anything to say? No? Can I take that as an approval for from the silence? That's unanimous, please. Thank you. Page 10, Linton Village Cricket Club. So they have 80 members and have a number of different teams. Regular games are played in the summer months. And this also provides a nice place for people to meet and socialise. This project is to provide two replacement sight screens. These are plain white screens that are put up to help players see what ball the bowler is going to ball, basically helping to provide a clear vision and prevent distraction. While the current screens have been repaired in the past, they're now falling apart and beyond repair. So I'd like to replace these. Total costs are two thousand eight hundred fifty pounds plus VAT and two thousand pounds has been requested from the community chest. The club's already received six hundred pounds from the Anderson Trust and some fundraising events. They'll just cover the short form. And the parish council have not been asked for financial contribution as they've already contributed funds towards a new roller this season. And we have support from both Henry, Councillor Henry and John Bachelor. Again, colleagues, comments? Let's check with these two. Are you not a cricketer? No. We didn't play cricket at Mart142, we played rounders. My wife's Polish, she's totally mystified by cricket. I'm not Polish and so am I. OK. Well, this looks a really old cricket club, 1852. I wonder whether it's the oldest in the county. It goes back a bit, doesn't it? It seems to be fitting with the general. We are very lucky in this region to have quite a lot of teams that are 19th century origin. Nice. Am I assuming then that we are super happy with this? Unless John looks grumpy? He always looks grumpy. I'm not good at this. He's good. OK. In that case, then I'll take that as a yes, please. Yes. OK, next please. This is the Cade Pavilion that provides a space for people to meet and hold functions. It's open regularly. And the examples of groups that are a fitness group, the History Society. There's a village quiz that goes on there. The management committee of the Cades have made this application. They manage the pavilion on behalf of the Ovinger, which is the parish council. And there is no lease in place just to that point. Funding is required to replace two sets of access doors so as to comply with updated fire regulations. This will also improve insulation, as well as the integrity of the building. Total costs are £4080, including VAT, to remove and remove these doors. And this also includes a panic function lock and they've requested £2000 from the community chest. And the management committee will be making and maintaining the doors and the, sorry, making the purchase and maintaining the doors and the parish council will contribute £2000 and own the doors. OK. So this one has a slight twist to it, I think, as we probably all read in our thing. So I would like, if it's OK for my colleagues on the committee to go to our lead member for finance, John Williams, and ask for his comment. Yes. OK, I have a problem with this. It's the management committee is there to manage the facility. What they're asking us to do, asking for, is for us to pay for improvement in the building, naturally owned by the parish council. So I think technically this goes outside our criteria. I think if the management committee had come to us and said we would like money for, I don't know, cups and saucers for the events or tables or something. That's fine. But actually what you're asking us to do is to pay for something which isn't theirs, alongside the parish council, which they manage on the council. Technically, it's owned by the parish council. There's no leasing place if they hadn't been a leasing. It would be a requirement to provide that anyway. So it's actually to their own benefit to go back to the parish and get a lease. It's the population of LSE because it's just a part of the... OK, I'm receiving the information from the lead member from finance very, very clearly. I think I would like to recommend to you, my colleagues, that we get this on the grounds that we believe this is a council responsibility, not ours. Agree with that? The council put two thousand in but it's their building. It's the final line on this. The parish council will contribute about owning the new doors. That's the problem, isn't it? It's the ownership of an asset which they have. They didn't pay for it. Sorry, Peter, I told them they weren't allowed to take the application anyway. The management committee is a subset of the parish council, which is more convoluted. It's a bit like a working party of the parish, or is it completely separate from the parish? This is where one of the misnomers comes in all the time, isn't it? I'm a parish councilor today, but tomorrow I'm on that committee that runs this thing over here. And I'm not a parish councilor. Yes, you are. Everyone knows you're a parish council, so you're still acting on behalf of the parish council. I think if they had a repairing lease or something like that, that's fine. It's clear that they're just there to manage the building and the ownership of the building rest of the parish council. If it's OK with you, I'll come back to you in a second, but before we go to the vote, there's a thing here, John. I'd like to be positive about saying no. See from the application that we can see some areas that the management committee might wish to look at adding the parish council together. And that is to issue a lease, even if it's only a short lease for, say, two to three years, five years, whatever, it then puts the onus on the lease holders to do whatever the maintenance, repairing maintenance, or whatever you call it. So that might be the way forward. And so we've seen a couple of areas where we might think it'd be helpful for us to give that information. But if they come back in the future, I will be in a different position. But it depends whether the management committee is actually just an element of the parish council or there's a separate body, and there was a need to be a constituted body, wouldn't there? Yeah, you do, so over to you, Erin. Can I just suggest, perhaps, as offices, we perhaps go away for next month and sort of provide a little bit of clarity around infrastructure projects and a few things for the criteria just to make it clear for applicants. I think there's been a little bit of something, you know, we get quite a lot of questions from them, sort of saying, Can I apply? Can I not apply? So I think if we can make it clear in the first place. It might be a fabulous idea. The thinking behind this limit of the size of parish council, which would help, is because we feel that larger parish councils should look after their own assets, basically. It's big enough to have resources, it should be able to do it. But in that case then I'd like to suggest that we reject. Are we in agreement with that? We reject, it's not a defer. Anyone have a different opinion or wish to abstain? Abstain? You abstain, yeah? OK, so people abstain, the rest of us reject, yeah. Thank you. We've been consistent a little. Look. [unintelligible] I hope to see you very much. In 2014, another infrastructure project we have, this application is from a charity that manages the day to day function of the reading room, recreation field and cricket pavilion on behalf of the residents of Western Colville Village. They're showing you the area in question. So the village playground is at the rear of the recreation field. It's outdated, has numerous issues and needs upgrading. You can see a picture there, obviously, of some play equipment. A working group consisting of village representatives has been formed to undertake the projects, which will cost around £91,000 in total. Applications will be made to a number of different funding streams to meet the costs. This includes a request to the community to test. Testing £112,039 for two sections of fencing, that's to expand the existing fencing area where the younger children play, plus install temporary harass fencing that is required meets health and safety guidance for the duration of the installation of the new play equipment. They've also, as an alternative, if the fencing weren't to be approved, they've also provided another suggestions for play equipment that members might be more happy with, if this wasn't to be something you'd want to look at. The parish council has contributed £5,000 towards the total costs. The present fence will be kept and extended on one side and fence posts, fence panels and rubber matting will be used where possible. The reading room who own the land have confirmed that they will be making the fence purchase, as well as owning and maintaining the fencing. This is support from Councillor Jeff Harvey and Councillor Henry Batchelor. This is another one that I'd like to defer back to John, but I've got a question, if I may, for clarification before I come to you, John. In the application, it says that the project is going to be around about £91,000. Just doing a quick tot up on my fingers. There is around about £4,500, £5,000 worth of spend in small numbers. The £980,000, the £730,000, et cetera, et cetera. The parish council has put in £5,000 which kind of covers those expenditures. I don't see anything that's obvious, unless I've missed it, about where the other £86,000 comes from. This project is a phased project, so obviously they'll put the fencing in first, then add the equipment. Where did I say that? Because I must have missed it. Applications. Which through it, quickly? Number of different streams. Right, OK. Note to self, would you please list the funding streams that you might be going to, and give everybody a clue what kind of effort you're going to be putting in. So if you're going to do a lotto or you're going to do something else, we know what the amount of work that is involved in making those kind of applications. It's not one side of the paper, is it? It's months of work. OK, over to you, John, if I may, for guidance. The issue I've got with this is the temporary fencing. Because it doesn't, is it being hired? What's going to happen to it? If it's been hired, then it's a revenue, not a capital. It's a revenue item. We can't. I think we need a bit more. I need more information, I think. You may decide, of course, to refund the fencing, permanent fencing. But as I say in the first fencing, I'm not sure is that the price for renting this fencing? And once they've used it, if they're buying it, what are they going to do with it? Oh, they're going to rent it? That's why, because I did go back to the infrastructure issue. And instead, it's been rented, it's a revenue. I think having done a project with a fair amount of herofencing for the last two or three years and rented it, it came to more than that. The project that I was involved with didn't have it for very long, and I'm thinking at the time it takes you to make an application for 86,000 to various funders. You might, if you don't have one of those funders come up trumps for you, then you're going to be stuck with more funding and more cost for the render of a hero fencing. It will be cheaper to buy in the end. So there's lots of questions, I think. Colleagues. One of my questions is, what is the reading room used for? Is it a hall? They've had money from us before, I mean we know about the reading room, we've given them money before. Okay, it's not a council, it's council or anything there is. In any case, they're not really applying for money for the reading room, they're applying it for money. So that's fine. They have these alternative things that you could use presumably instead of let's fancy using to be perfectly acceptable. That's where they feel most appropriate because they all stick. The various fencing is really important for children. It does the job. Yeah, that's the thing, it does the job. It can get blown down the wind very often so it does do the job. So Peter, you got any comments? Yes, I agree with Martin, we should go back and get this application, the alternative option. Generally it looks like a project, it's just that little bit of it, it's our criteria. But it's down to you, I mean, we can't pay for the temporary fencing though. So if we were to defer and ask Martin and the gang to go back to... I think if the Trust choose, it would be better if they came back and said this is what I mean. Give us three options. See, I'm just looking at the costings, they would get more if they went for the women fencing plus one of the other options. So I could say to them, I mean, did it have to be deferred or could we make... I'm quite happy for you to... obviously if the committee... I'm happy. Which one they would like... And if you can approve that, let us know. Not the temporary fences. Yep. Back to you, Emmeline. Right, yep. Right, so onto the next one, which is a cost of living application on page 17. So this is Cambridge Online, which was formed in 2003 to provide courses, advice and signposting services to help people make the most of being online. It's 45 members that they have, at least six live in South Cambridgeshire, one of which is a trustee. So refurbished and refurbished devices such as laptops, tablets and smartphones are given out as well and our residents can seek help at various locations. I've looked this up on their website that includes places like the Meadows Community Centre in Arbury. And what the charity would like to do is support 21 people in need within South Cambridgeshire by providing devices, support and six months free data. Total project costs are £2,000, all of which has been requested from the community chest. They are quite good with their green considerations, they take all the devices apart that they can be and use another technology to reduce landfill. And they have received funding from us in the past, just made a little note there as well. But yes, they are paid for £2,000, thank you. We've got to go first. Can I just say something? They're asking us to give a donation to enable to help very young people in South Cambridgeshire so we gave the donation last January 2021, so we gave the donation last year. 10 tablets, 8 mobile phones. In addition, actually they bought 11 tablets and 10 mobile phones. And to them it was saying that they both helped six people in South Cambridgeshire. So they haven't used the equipment that they bought with our money last year. That's for South Cam's residence. I think those additional ones did go to South Cam's residence. I think that was them as far as I know. I believe so, yes. I seem to remember we had this issue with them. It wasn't clear when they, like last year, whether they actually had sufficient clients in South Cam's to use that equipment just for South Cam's residence. It would end up being by city residents. I think there's a referral process, so obviously organisations can refer, you know, basically say we can refer you. The council, social prescribers and GPs and charities to those that are in need and that obviously would be in South Cam's. I think that's how they work. I don't think they would give that to anybody in South Cam's. What they say, the beneficiaries keep the items. So presumably the previous items are with the beneficiaries. These are additional people who they're helping. I'm not sure there's anyone who is additional people. I'm just wondering what they said last year. How many of them are going to help in South Cam's last year? They actually list to 21 people. That's an aspirational number that they could support. Maybe they don't exist. So it's a big jump from six the previous year to 21. Correct, and we know you earlier had some clarification the previous applications for the applicants to be able to read through. Kind of flows from that to this, really doesn't it? So if you have the second year that they come back and they're doing more or less the same thing again, fine. I think it's a great idea. It's a lovely idea, but they need to tell the story. I know they've probably made a report and that's fine, but may be prudent to say that that lot went to South Cam's and we had such a success that we're asking for do it again. It's a bit more creative to tell the story. As John says, it's guaranteed it's not actually written. We have to go away and look or ask. They say that they're going to help 90 people a month. So obviously they've got quite a few people coming in for the supply. 21 sounds as though it's quite vulnerable. I don't argue with it, but it's just we all know who have written applications for funding tend to put everything in it and make it a story, so that it convinces the person who's going to part with the hard earned, that actually this is worth doing again or this is worth supporting. Those 45 members, they're on their mailing list of people that want to be informed of all their updates and there's at least six people living in South Cambridges, so obviously that's those 45 people. But there's going to be people in addition to that as well, people that don't regularly sign up, aren't as such, but they might need this. I had to seek clarification on that bit because it wasn't quite clear to me. I think, Emma, what we'd like to know is how, you know, it's been reassured and they would have put, you know, I think that this, Joce actually, if you're making an application, you'd want to tell us how our money was spent and who it went to. And they tell us how it spent. They don't tell us, they don't confirm that this equipment went to a South Cam residence. We've either thought you would want to do it in order to get us to, we would want to know some more. Could we find out, Emma? I think there is an evaluation and I'll just sort of, you just have to bear with me if I just have a quick look. I'm understanding the King's Hedges, the scheme has moved to the King's Hedges Road as far as I can see. The last paragraph from the application. They're using the Hester Adrian Centre free of charge. So if they're not there, there's nobody to support the people who might be using that Hester Adrian Centre to know how to use the equipment, if you see what I mean. And there's no point in it being free of charge if there isn't anybody there to help you. I'm a little confused about that. I'm confused from the area, I think on King's Hedges Road now from the Hester Adrian place. The Hester Adrian Centre is separate from the King's Hedges Road site, it's a different site? I believe so, yes. Where was the Hester Adrian Centre? We're in Cambridge, I can't tell you where. In Cambridge rather than South Cam's? Yes. The way that, where they are, I think a lot of the, I did look in to find out exactly where the other. James has picked up that in their bid last year, they actually said where they would be used and to be used in South Cam's. Actually Fenders & Campbell & Waterage. Lovely. OK, so, so. Need a bit of clarification. That would have appeared. That's fine. And they say they helped 21 people in South Cam's with this. It would be nice though to have had some feedback with their bid. That these people actually helped. It's a confirmation that. But, you know, that's what they said in their previous bid. And they're saying they want to use this to buy equipment for 21 South Cam's. So I think on that basis they are quite happy to. Yes, so I think I had no consensus around the table to think about that. I think if we're going to be doing tweaking the current revenue or capital costs with more projects, as we were talking about earlier. And that we ask them to perhaps operate on each anybody writing an application to. Thank you. Informative. Let us know what you've done. If you've had money from us before and you're coming back again to do the same thing, tell us what you've done. Celebrate the fact you've done it. And then we'll go. Great idea. And we'd have to sit here talking about it. Martin. I was going to suggest that maybe we ask them to supply a list of the people to who has been supplied it. But I don't know what they've done. No, it's GDPR. And obviously evaluations, we obviously request that as part of their grant. And Jane chases those up. So obviously we have folders with them. And obviously you can imagine we have quite a lot to chase, quite a bit. So that is actually part of those grant conditions where we do have a Grants Advisory Committee. Normally we sort of have all that information so we can. I appreciate that. Then we're asking you to do a lot more work and you're not asking for two grand. So I think it was a small paragraph. Suffice to say, James found out quite quickly there. That could have been in there. We've done this. We've done that. They're actually chuffed to bits. I'll do it again somewhere else. Another 21 people waiting for this kid. Can we have two grand? Yes. They've been a long and a short way. Didn't put any more work on your shoulders. You can ask them to notify us of the location of where they went to. As long as it's within South Canada. That's all I was saying. But they did in their previous bid. They did beforehand, but they happened to not have this one. Yeah, that's right. So if they happen to find it, we could ask them to do it once they know where it is. That's all. But I'm happy to. I think they're not going to show a bit. We're OK with it. But a few points just to Emma On to our deferred application, a biodiversity application on page 19 from Cambourne Church. You'll remember that application from this last grant's advisory from March 2024. Depending further information on whether a detailed design plan at the memorial garden could be provided, showing the area that will become the wildlife garden, the area that will become the produce garden and the exact location of the rainwater harvesting area. So they have a management plan. And you can also see the sketch of the design that they've been provided with. This shows the different areas within that garden and the working with Wildlife Trust. We've offered lots of advice on signage. The only available downpipe to harvest the rainwater from the church roof is on the south side. And that is obviously because of obviously, you know, I think it's a bit of flat roofing as well, so they've had to locate it where it is. Second part. The question they asked was details on the content that will be included in the interpretation and the education information. So you'll see a couple of examples there. One of the education leaflet, one of the display board. They'll have another board providing information about the compost bays that will be created. And then the last bit I think you wanted to find out was the example, what a prayer prop would look like. So we've gone back to them and they have basically said that they discussed this at their April church council meeting. And they were very happy with prompts that are encouraging people to pause, look and listen in nature. So it's sort of more to do with spiritualities, that anybody could obviously sit there and just contemplate as such. An email has been received this week to say that the vegetable plot is harvesting well for the Trussell Trust Food Bank. And last week, there was surplus food to pass on to the Hope CIC organisation. They have said that due to the weather at the moment, they sort of urgently need to get the rainbow harvesting put up. And this would also feed into some hedge plants that applying for from the Woodland Trust. And that would obviously lead to another year when it's the planting season. But I think now is a crucial time for them to get the rainwater hunching. Thank you. Elise? It looks lovely. My only question is, there's no evidence and anybody can have chance to sit down because there isn't any status in it. There was a diagram, some pictures I sent through this week and there was a picture of a bench I believe. So, right, it's less, I mean somebody could just see a contemplation area as well. It looks lovely. Good plan. They've done what we've asked, so I think it looks fine. I mean, they've obviously got us a fairly well prepared manure there. That's why they've got a surplus. With carrots coming out of their sides. Well, we're all happy with this then, yeah? Okay, thank you, let's say you need none of us again. Thanks. They're working really hard on this also. Yeah, that's right. Okey dokey. On to Appendix C on page 33, this is Marvel Green Management Company. This is an update, six month update. They were awarded community chest funding of two thousand pounds last year. Obviously this is the condition that they would have the update. I've included details of their application just as a reminder so you can see that. But, if you remember, this is a group of 18 residents looking after a piece of land in Meldrith. Since last September, they've been really busy. They've cleared and prepared the land, they've planted seeds, they've formed bark areas, cleared the pond and planted aquatic plants and reeds. And they've told us the project has really brought the community together. See that picture on page 37. The community, lots of variety of people, old and young, getting involved there. This is obviously on my patch and I know it's a report in, so I'd like to just publicly offer my thanks to SEDC officers, namely Lee Hillam and his team for the support they've done there. You can see one of our success stories again, I think he said he's lovely. So, if he's done what he said on the tin. And that's next on the list before we hear from them, that was a requirement, wasn't it? Anything else, perhaps like that garden in my big wall? There's some pictures there. Celebrate what you've done. OK, thank you. That is fabulous. Well, you've done them all. Thank you. Item number six, Electric Vehicle Charge Point Grant. Hi, Luke, sorry, I'll just see you catch up. Crept openness. Hello, can you hear me? Yeah, up to you, Luke. Carry on, please. Thank you very much. Thank you, Chair. Yeah, after the end, everybody. So, yeah, here we have an application for the EV Charge Point Grant. It's come from Caxton Parish Council. The proposed charges would be installed in the car park of Caxton Village Hall, which has 24 hour public access as per the criteria for the grant. Just a bit of information on the charger itself. So it would be a single charger with two sockets capable of charging two vehicles simultaneously and rated at 22 kilowatts speed. And just also important to mention, the applicant has acquired three quotes from installers who have all confirmed that the site has sufficient electricity supply to power that speed of charger. So in terms of the kind of, I suppose, the demand for the charger, there's quite a few local amenities nearby that might encourage its use. So obviously there's a village hall itself which has various events and facilities going on. There's playing fields adjacent with sports, sports pitches. There's also a restaurant, I believe in the village. So all these things hopefully could kind of be of use or could be used by people that are charging their vehicles or vice versa. If someone's using facilities, they can charge their vehicle at the same time. There's also around 14 houses from an approximate count, so not exact, but from a look on Google Earth and Street View, there's around 14 houses that I can see in the village that don't have their own private parking. So they wouldn't be able to install their own charger at their home for personal use. So again, these properties would benefit from a public charger in the village should they choose to get an electric vehicle at any point if they don't have one already. And also a bit more sort of in terms of wider demand, the parish council themselves undertook a survey of residents by WhatsApp group and of 73 responses. They said that 47 respondents sort of agreed that the charger was a good idea. 21 respondents said their visitors would use it and five said they themselves would use it already. So, yeah, I think there's a kind of a good case for demand for the charger in this location. And so the the applicant is requesting £5,000, which is the sort of maximum grant, funding through this grant to cover the costs of the purchase and installation. And they've provided an itemised quote for this for their approved sorry, for their preferred installer. And the applicant also has confirmed support for confirmed support from the local members as well. It's also I should also say that the parish council has applied to our zero carbon communities grant for solar panels and battery storage at the village hall. But that's a separate application and the chargers, the sort of this application for the chargers and installation of these wouldn't depend on any sort of success or otherwise on the ZCC grant side of things. So, yeah, hopefully that's a useful introduction, but happy to take any questions. Thank you, Luke. Anyone got any questions? This is just an example of good work done by the development team here. Thank you for doing the work on this, Luke. It's exactly the sort of location where you probably wouldn't get one otherwise and where the support will help. It's surprising how the new proposals for new chargers. It has to be on parish council land and parish councils don't always have land that they can provide. Certainly my village doesn't have any land of its own. It makes life a bit tedious. So this is obviously not on parish council land, but fills the bill very well indeed. (inaudible) Yeah, there's a new, very keen parish council leading on this and on solar panels. So we're going to encourage it. We're agreed over this side. So are we all doing in favour of this? Yes, that's thanks, Luke. Luke, why don't I swap to you? Are you working with the CAD team on their scheme? Not directly, no. So I've asked to be included on and basically be kept up to date with developments for their scheme. And I believe we've got a meeting in the diaries for a catch up with them early July, perhaps second week in July. But I'm not directly working with them on their plans. I believe that I imagine they're working towards government funding deadlines for the local EV infrastructure fund, which I think is towards the end of July to get that bid into the government. So, yeah, I'm sort of hopefully being kept informed. But yeah, not working directly with them. John, I understand what you're talking about, but possibly the other members of the committee do not, in terms of the county. What I understand is the county have offered parish councils to install EV chargers on their land, where they have land. And it's a bit more than us. I think it's 15,000. It is. But it was, it sort of, it doesn't directly compete against what we're doing, but it's causing a lot of confusion, is how, you know, how their scheme fits in with our scheme. And yeah, it's, it's to say, it is caused some confusion. I wondered how much they had, you know, how much involvement you'd had in their scheme and whether or not they had thought about, you know, making sure that their scheme didn't conflict with ours or cause this confusion that's now. Because I think it's put off some parishes approaching us. And which is a bit of a shame, really. One of my parishes, for example, that was going to make a scheme, I guess was going to approach us, but decided instead to approach the county council. And yeah, anyway, it's just, it's just a shame that the county seemed to have announced this scheme or introduced this scheme without really giving full to the fact that we were already running the scheme. Even though the two things were different in that our schemes, obviously for community facilities and theirs is for parish council then. Yeah, I think there is obviously definitely potential for confusion between the two. I think, you know, when we've worked with the county, once I sort of realised that it was happening, I've sent out a bulletin via the parish bulletin to sort of tell parishes what it was and point parishes towards it, should they want to choose that option, but also clarifying that it was different to our grant. And what was different about it. I think, I suppose it's a slightly different model, as far as I understand it. They're offering sort of a fully funded model where the potential installer that the county would procure for the larger EV charging piece would come and do the installation and effectively run it and own it. So perhaps there's less flexibility for parishes than our current grant. But yeah, I mean, going forwards, you know, we're working with the county to hopefully kind of allay any confusion where possible and make sure that it's sort of, yeah, the two are kind of recognised as being distinct from one another. Yeah, and kind of offering different things. But yeah, hopefully, going forward as I say, I've got a meeting in a couple of weeks, I think with the county to get an update with them on what their plan is. I'd like to commend you, Luke, on your diplomacy there, thank you very much. Is it just the one application? We've only got one here, so it is, I'm afraid, yeah, just the one. Thank you very much for hanging on all that time and listening to us drone on. You're succinct, and as I say, diplomatic presentation. Thank you very much indeed and thanks, that's really great. Thanks, everyone. Right. Okie doke. So agenda item number 7. So you've asked for my name. OTO. This is a long term health condition grant, yeah? Yes, thank you. So you may remember from the Grants Advisory Committee back in August, 2023, that £13,000 was agreed and awarded to nine different applicants from the voluntary community and which enterprise sectors and also leisure centre groups, which offer offering various physical activity programs that support residents within South Cambridge you're living with. Chronic long term health conditions across the district. So I trust you read the report and this report is providing our view of the outcomes, which highlights the success of a variety of activity programs that have been delivered by these applicants, and how I supported those residents living with long term conditions, and you can see in Appendix B, some of the highlighted benefits. We have been seeing. So following the success of this grant is recommended to repeat the grant for 2024/2025. Viewing £9,000 already allocated on this activity project. Any questions? Thank you, Ben. I keep him on his toes. The email system that we started today lists some of those things so that they can send them out to people within the village. There's an awful lot of people with Parkinson's around, and obviously Alzheimer's, and I just feel that I was quite surprised at how many services we are providing, in little pockets all over South Cams. And I know a Parkinson's person I could have directed towards that service. As part of my role, I make sure that I'm promoting programs that I oversee as much as possible, sharing it to social media, bring up posters, sharing it with parish councils, etc. I guess, being honest, it probably does depend on the applicant and how big a apps that they can sort of share that. Transport and all sorts of things, certainly. But I was thinking of things like Community Navigators, which are run, paid for by the county, and run by Care Network. They know about all these services because they might be able to direct people that they meet as part of their role, and I just feel sometimes we live in little huddles. I do try and make sure that it's shared across, and they should be aware that perhaps more of a drive of repeated message can stay. I do think that GPs are patient with dementia, and they hand out bios about things, with various schemes. The other thing I'd like to expand on that, Hc, it's the PCNs. Oh, they are not Community Navigators, they are social prescribers working within the community, so they are seeing people all the time, and they are accessing people. There's like health referrals and social prescribers, and there's a website called 'How are you South Cams', I'm not sure if you're aware of that. So on this website, there's a variety of things put on post on this website, can be support groups. Again, I liaise with the officer that deals with that website and share all the programmes that I oversee, so GPs, social prescribers will be able to see those groups. So again, if there was a client that had Parkinson's and wanted support, hopefully it should be on there. We talk about GPs, but actually, I'm perhaps a more important contactor, I've noticed, I found recently, the doctor referred me to the physio that comes very close to the surgery. And there seems to be people who, in many cases, will be the people that you want to contact, who will have the need because they're dealing with people. And I just wonder if we can ensure that they get informed as well. Yeah, so it's sort of in works, but sort of designing a poster and sort of leaflet that GPs can have, which kind of has a snapshot of my contact details, and what is going on. And again, the Hays website. So hopefully it will speed up the process of signposting actual participants to classes that want it and need it. I have been embroiled positively over the last two years, working with the NHS locally, with the PCN and the ICB, et cetera, in Melbourne. I can honestly say that all of the aforementioned that we've been talking about, it's quite a slow process to be able to put things in place. So I think the how are you, they actually refer to the how are you now quite actively within the PCN and the ICB. So that's quite good. So there are links back into, I think it's just a case of making it blindingly obvious. I just said to Sue while you were talking, has the community support for dementia, which is the Melbourne based one, has that made an application? It hasn't. Which started at Melbourne Hub about four years back, three, four years back. And there may even be five years actually. And out of group, the Hub within two months, the number of people that come, you have like a loved one with a person with dementia, and they're now plotted into Melbourne Village Hall, which is about five times the size of the Hub. So they fill that. They have a huge need for forms of money. So I think it's about how we access that network. You're right, I think it really is. But thank you, Ben, and thank you for the update. I think this is a fabulous. Another use of money, it's a small sum of money, the great scheme of things, but it can do such an awful lot. Yes, absolutely. OK, so I think there's only two, just to receive the report, and I'll leave it on, sorry. Oh, the 9000. Thank you, we recommended a 9000. Yes, very much. Sorry about that. Any more from you guys? Luke has gone, so there's nothing from him. Colleagues, anybody got anything to say before we close the meeting? No. Thank you very much, everyone. OK. That leaves me with the unenviable pleasure, as always, at the end of these meetings now is to say thank you to my colleagues coming in and attending. Thank you to other officers and thank you to our officers for presenting. Obviously, the Lead Member for Finance has been wonderful. And of course, our Park, but mostly the members of the public who turn out in their thousands usually. Now, I understand that this time of the year, the holiday season, the hot weather has reduced the numbers considerably down to one or two. But I think next next month will be a different month. It'll be the holiday season. So we may see people logging in from abroad. So on that note, thank you very much, the members of the public of South Cams. And that's the end of the meeting. Thank you. Another meeting this month. Please. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [BLANK_AUDIO]