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President Person to follow the proceedings. Please could I ask all attendees to turn on your microphones when you're invited to speak, and remember to turn them off when you finish speaking. Please note that this is a council meeting held in public, not a public meeting. All remarks should be addressed through me as chair. Please note that we're not expecting a fire alarm test this evening. If the alarm is sounded, please follow my instructions and evacuate.
As usual, each item will be introduced by an exec member, followed by an opportunity for members to ask questions, and then an opportunity for members of the public to ask questions. Questions must relate to the agenda item being deliberated.
When the questions on each item are completed, I will move the agenda item to a vote. Once the vote has been taken, there will be no further discussion of that item.
I would like to reassure everyone that the executive members have read all papers, reports and appendices supplied to them for this meeting. Thank you.
There are a few formal matters on the agenda to consider first. Item 1, apologies for absent, received from Councillors Bradford Bell, Chapman and Williamson. Are there any other apologies?
Declarations of interest. Do any members have an interest to declare? Item 3, non-exempt minutes of the previous meeting held on the 24th October 2024, pages 1 to 8 of the agenda pack.
Can we agree the non-exempt minutes of the last meeting as they correct the record, please? Agreed?
Our first item is Item 4, Budget Monitoring 2425, quarter 2.
Councillor Ward, please can you introduce this first report?
Thank you, Chair. This first item is about our in-year budget. Although we have seen light at the end of the tunnel, it continues to be very difficult for local authorities.
We are currently forecasting an overspend of just over £4 million, but that does not include the £5 million contingency, which is always baked into the budget, which we do as a responsible council.
The most significant pressure of late, Chair, is temporary accommodation costs, which continue to spiral across London.
Any questions from members?
Councillor Benali?
Hello. Well, first of all, I just want to say congratulations, Una, on your appointment to the role.
I wasn't ever able to make the UGM, but I just want to say I know we've got Borough's best interests at heart, and so good luck with the new role.
So, just a couple of questions, and do forgive me if they're a bit too into the weeds.
We can always explore them here or out of the other room.
So, I was struck by the N4 library service charges, so a point of detail where five years' worth of service charges seem to have accrued without us knowing about them.
And I was just wondering if there was any more detail about how that had happened or how that was not accounted for.
Again, if it's something that we need to address outside the meeting, it might be.
Could you direct me to the relevant page, Benali?
Oh, do you know what? I need to get better at writing that down.
If you give me two seconds, I can look it up.
It's a very long report, so I'd have to go to the paragraph first.
We can have a talk about it now, or I can send you an answer, whatever you want.
I'll send you the details, but I was just struck by that one point.
More broader point that I think maybe we don't need to do page details is on the future work savings.
I'm conscious this is one of the major savings that we've not hit, and I'd like to get your opinion on how viable those delivery projects look for the next year,
or whether that's something that we should be rethinking in the next financial year.
It's very ambitious, and it's very ambitious for a number of reasons.
Firstly, we do have to make savings.
Secondly, it's a good way of doing things for all kinds of reasons.
If you look at the buildings we have, I mean, Town Hall, 222, Cottage Road,
there are very few local authorities of our size that have managed to rationalise their estate down to that very, very small number of buildings.
It has hit some snags, but it has already made some savings,
and although we're a little bit behind, I'm very, very confident that we can make this saving,
but I think we do need to monitor this very, very closely now and in the future, and I welcome the question.
Thank you, Chair.
If I can move us to the housing revenue account,
and probably about 60% of the overspend there is due to the cost links to responding to damp and mould issues,
as well as disrepair claims.
Is there anything that we do proactively to make sure that we reduce that overspend?
I know that we had an absolutely wonderful housing lead, who is now leader of the council,
and who worked incredibly hard on this, along with our senior officers, the corporate directors also in the room this evening.
I know that a huge amount of work was done to improve customer service in relation to damp and mould.
Councillor Hallowin or Jed, may you want to say something more?
Yeah, I don't make any apologies for what it's cost and continue to.
Damp and mould I take very seriously and repairs, and I owe it to the residents of this borough.
So I don't know if Jed wants to come in.
I think we were one of the first councils, even when we went out,
to go back three years to our damp and mould and map everything out.
And I know London councils are coming to us, asking us for advice.
Yeah, so thank you for the question, if it's helpful.
If you look at last year's housing business plan, that was kind of acknowledged as a pressure that we're experiencing.
And again, it's in common with most other social landlords, responding to kind of increased demand.
Some of that comes through, as we know, from a very long period of underinvestment,
in terms of levels of capital investment available to maintain the fabric of buildings.
So while it shows up technically as an overspend, we've effectively been making a provisional increase in budget,
but without seeking to permanently establish it,
because we're hopeful that some of the work that we're undertaking will start to reduce the level of unmet demand.
And happy to share more details with you on the improvement plan that's been implemented.
Yeah.
So just on N4 Library, I'll cover that for you.
So N4 Library is in a sort of shared space, and it has come to light that actually the main provider of the building
had not been recharging the cost of some of the service charges to N4 Library there for us as a local authority.
That has come to light, and that's why we have a five-year payment to make.
I think it's fair to say the corporate landlord services have looked at why that had happened,
to make sure that that's not repeated in any more of our buildings,
and have taken the lessons from that forward.
I would also say, and it's sort of mentioned in there,
that whilst we've had to pay a larger bill now,
in previous years we've accounted for the fact that perhaps we hadn't paid that service charge
and it would have sat as an underspend.
So that's where it's come from.
It's to do with it being in a shared building.
Did you want to come back?
Well, I was just going to add, because I'm very conscious, right, we're a council with a long history
that predates the digital era, but I think with my observation in two years of being a councillor,
there's perhaps a bit of a systematic theme here about record-keeping and about being on top of charges.
I've met community centres who don't have clear agreements with us
and aren't aware on the arrangements, that they're somewhere in a folder on a paper file somewhere.
Is there something about a systemic programme of improving our understanding of our footprint in the borough?
It'd be good to see those lessons learned, because certainly as a local councillor,
I'm butting up against some of those frustrations on record-keeping, clarity and costs.
Well, I'm not going to comment on the community centres, because we're doing a community centre review.
As you know, this council has been behind the times because of the way things are logged.
We're doing a huge investment with the resident experience on digital, for repairs and everything else,
and I think you'll find in the next few years, it's not to say people wasn't keeping records and doing it,
it's just the way we're doing it now.
So we're coming, like I say, into the real world and have people just do things differently.
But it comes at a cost.
So when we do it, we're going to be still challenged,
why are you spending so much money on digital, the experience?
But we will get there.
No, absolutely, just to echo what Councillor Halloran said,
I mean, if you look at the themes of this year,
future works, consolidating our buildings, resident experience, getting a digital up-to-date,
all of the themes of all of our projects are all about that modernisation, Benali,
and looking at this year's in-year budget,
despite everything, despite all of the challenges that have been identified,
when you take into account our five-minute contingency,
we're actually predicting a small surplus this year, despite everything.
I'm going to go, can we agree the recommendations?
Agreed.
It's from 1.1 to 1.11 on page 9 of the Agenda Pack.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Now we move to item B5,
medium-term financial strategy 25 to 26.
Councillor WARD.
Thank you, Chair.
So the previous report looked at our in-year budget.
This takes a much broader view of our five-year budget.
And again, there are significant changes and additional costs to the Council.
And again, I have to highlight the most significant one there
is the rising costs of temporary accommodation.
As I've said, that's not just something that we're facing,
it's what's being faced right across London.
It's a significant challenge for local government.
The Tories left this in an absolute mess.
I'm really proud that we still have a Council home-building programme
and all of the work that Council Hallowin and team did
on buying back Council properties.
But this is a significant medium-term challenge.
Are there any questions from members of the Executive?
Any questions from any other members?
Can we agree recommendations 1.1 to 1.4 on page 67 of the Agenda Pack?
Agreed.
The next item is item B6, General Fund Fees and Charges.
Councillor Ward, it's the Council Award night tonight.
Over to you.
Not me again, Chair.
So every year we do a General Fund Fees and Charges paper
because as a prudent Council,
it's important that we keep an eye on every single charge.
And the point has been made tonight about record keeping.
So it's very, very important that we know exactly what we're charging for every single item.
Most things have just gone up by CPI, by inflation.
Where there is a more significant increase,
it's often to do with rising costs of the service itself.
Thanks, Chair.
Any questions from members of the Committee?
Councillor Banali?
Great, thank you.
A few questions for me.
First of all, I think this is the second, or if not, I think second year,
that we've decoupled setting fees from the budget process.
And I was wondering, are we confident of the benefits of that?
Certainly, as an opposition member, I think it's sometimes hard to look at these in separation from the budget.
So I'd ask, you know, what's your opinion about the benefit of doing it separately from the budget process later on?
I'm not aware of any local authority that does couple this with the budget process.
It's not a question I was expecting.
If you put it in with the budget,
firstly, there'd be less time to discuss this at a meeting because the budget's good.
There's so much to it.
And secondly, the Council would lose hundreds of thousands of pounds
because this would come in May next year rather than on the 1st of January this year.
So given that most things are rising by CPI and inflation is a thing right now,
I don't see any reason why we would hold this off to the budget.
But it was a different time period.
It's not always been this month that says Exitiv, has it?
As long as I've been the executive member for finance,
I have always brought a fees and charges paper this time of year.
Thank you. That's helpful.
So a few more detailed things around the fees.
So I just wanted to check something on...
Mr. Bernardo, can we just check?
It is a question you're asking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a question about the parking fees.
So in most of the parking bands, you're raising them by inflation.
But with the electric band three and the universal ice band one,
you're not...
You've frozen just those two bands by themselves.
It would be just good to explain why.
It might be a question more for Councillor Champion.
All right.
Jed's in the room as well.
If you want to comment on this, Jed.
Yeah, I'm going to answer very briefly that...
So the parking fees and charges and permit charges
generally follow the CPI and inflationary uplift.
On occasions, we're also looking at benchmarking
for other London boroughs
and thinking about the different vehicle uses
in relation to our policy objectives.
So trying to influence behaviour.
But I don't have any more kind of specific information.
But again, happy to follow on with correspondence
if that's helpful.
Then just for another question.
So on HMO licensing,
there's a substantial increase in the charges,
which I think is very welcome.
Selective licence fees have frozen.
Is there any reason for that discrepancy?
I think this is all about benchmarking
and HMO licenses have gone up
because due to benchmarking with other local authorities.
Jed, do you want to come in there?
Because we've done a lot of work on this.
Yeah, I mean, there is a paper further in the agenda
just talking in more detail about licensing.
But absolutely, so Councillor Ward's correct.
So both for all of the kind of licensing fees,
we undertook a comparison of other London boroughs
and wanted to make sure the council's fees
were in line with and consistent too.
So the up rating is about bringing us
into that kind of reasonable upper quartile level
for London effectively.
Any more questions?
Thanks, Reta.
Ernestis?
Thank you, Chair.
Back in the day,
I used to potentially get some tickets to go to gigs
and I was always aghast by the charge
that you get for the administration of that service.
I have noticed that we've got a new fees and charge
coming in for parking permits.
So the administrative charge for refunds of permits,
vouchers and e-vouchers, is now at £31.60.
That seems to be quite a high number.
It would be great to know,
does that cover the administration
in a bit more detail about what that involves?
I mean, this is about both rising costs
and benchmarking and it doesn't strike me
as much different to any other local authority.
I don't know if anyone wants to comment any more on that.
Sorry, there isn't really any more detail
that I can provide,
but effectively it is that,
effectively it's a cost recovery process
and the charges are, you know,
checked to be in line with other kind of equivalent,
equivalent powers.
And many of whom use very similar kind of operating systems
that have similar overheads to us.
So it is a kind of reasonable level in that context.
Are we finished now, yeah?
No, I'm just checking.
I don't want to leave anyone out.
Right.
Can we agree recommendations 1.2 to 1.6
on page 89 of the agenda pack, please?
Agreed.
Next item, item B7,
and Treasury Management mid-term report,
pages 233 to 250.
Councillor Ward, can you introduce, please?
Thanks, Chair.
For anyone watching at home,
Treasury Management is about
managing the Council's borrowing
to ensure the funding of the future capital programme
at an optimal cost
and investing surplus cash balances
arising from day-to-day operations.
This report reviews the activities
of the Council's Treasury Management function
over the half-year period
ended September 30th, 2024.
Over the reporting period,
all Treasury Management activities
have been carried out
in accordance with the approved limits
and the prudential indicators
set out in the Council's
Treasury Management strategy.
It's not the report
that gets an awful lot of questions
or there may be something out,
and it's not a report
I often get asked about,
but it's incredibly important
that we are managing our borrowing
and investing cash surpluses
to provide an optimal return
for the Council
in these very, very difficult financial times.
I want to thank the entire team involved in this.
Thank you.
Any questions from anybody?
No?
Can we agree the recommendations?
Oh, can we...
Can the recommendations
to note this report, please?
Agree.
Next, it's item B8,
contract extension
for the supply of temporary agency workers.
Councillor Wald, over to you.
Thank you, Chair.
Obviously, we want to always try
and minimise the number of agency workers
that we have
and make sure that as many staff as possible
are on permanent contracts.
However, in a Council like ours
that runs over 1,000 services,
there will always be some need
for agency workers,
although we have taken steps
to minimise that.
So we do need this contract
and I would also draw attention
to the appendix
where it talks about
the social value aspects
of this contract
and there's some really good
social value stuff here.
Thanks.
Any questions?
Councillor Bernani.
Yeah, I know I've brought this up before,
but looking to the examples
of Kemp Council
and Luton Council
who've looked to bring in
some of this
in agency recruitment processes
where instead of bringing in
an external company,
we're recruiting our own
banks of agency staff.
Luton and Kent's kind of savings
that they've demonstrated
have been really impressive
and I've mentioned it before
at what was P&P.
I wanted to know,
I understand that you might be
extending this contract for a year,
but I wondered if this was a review
or you've done any work
looking at this as an alternative
to working with Maxim.
It's a 12-month extension
and outside that period
we'd be very happy
to consider all options.
Councillor Anistis.
Thank you.
So you've mentioned about
the social value
that Matrix SCM provides.
One of my concerns is
that we've been promised
that we would ask more
than occasional visits to schools,
which they do seem to do
quite a lot of
and which is really useful,
but that we would get
something more in depth.
And I think for almost
a 50 million extension contract,
I think we should be asking
more for social value.
and especially not just
from getting potential jobs,
but also from an environmental
point of view.
So Matrix SCM
are aiming to be net zero
by 2040,
which obviously is not in line
with what we have as a council.
So I would urge you to
going forward...
Can you tell me the question?
Yeah, so I would urge you
going forward to...
And would you consider
reviewing what companies
would work for
and what we're actually asking
from social value with them?
You described the social value
in Appendix 1
as occasional visit to a school.
Now, there's a long list of things
in this that has been done
as part of this social value contract.
There's not one page,
not two pages,
but there's like three pages
of things that have been done
as a result of this contract.
Occasional visit to a school
does not accurately represent
the social value aspect
of this contract.
That's the first point.
Secondly,
we can always do more
on social value
and we are always up
for talking more
and talking about
more on social value.
So we are...
We have a great record
on environmental concerns
around social value.
It's probably...
It's actually more
the qualitative part
of the procurement
rather than the social value side.
But we're very, very happy
to talk about that
as we have been doing
as part of our
banking procurement workshop.
And I would just like
to add to that
we always go out
for the best social value
and we keep going
even when we're in a contract
we're always pushing
for more.
Can we agree...
Oh.
Can we agree recommendations
2.1 to 2.2
on page 251
of the agenda pack, please?
Agreed.
Next item
is item C9
the homeless
and rough sleeping
strategy
and action plan.
And before I ask
Councillor Wolfe
to give this
I want to just
put on record
my thanks for him
for taking on this role.
He's really hit
the ground running
and I feel
the homes and neighbourhoods
is in excellent hands.
That's very kind.
Thank you.
I was going to thank you
because it's my pleasure
to bring this strategy
to executive
but it's thanks
to your hard work
and a broad range
of stakeholders
who've contributed
to the production
of this strategy
including residents
with lived experience
of homelessness
the housing scrutiny committee
the homelessness prevention forum
Islington Housing Association group
and national advocates
from Homeless Link
and Housing Justice
so just to put on record
my thanks to them
for this hard work.
As you can see
despite a backdrop
of increased demand
for our support
due to the cost of living
this strategy sets out
four key priorities
through which we seek
to prevent homelessness
Number one
is preventing
and relieving homelessness
through early
and tailored intervention
Number two
the elimination
of rough sleeping
by helping people
into settled housing
Number three
improving housing options
to meet the demands
and number four
in line with our
providing accommodation
and resettlement services
to refugees
and migrants
so I'd ask
the executives committee
to approve
this strategy
Any questions
from anybody?
Thank you
Can we please
agree the recommendations
to approve
this strategy?
Agreed
Item C10
response to the scrutiny
review of complex
antisocial behaviour
Council
over to you
Thank you chair
at the risk of sounding
a sycophant
I also want to thank
for this paper
the policy and performance
scrutiny committee
for their hard work
in reviewing the council
and partner agency services
to combat complex ASB
we've put a significant
amount of work
into tackling ASB
and improving our
response to ASB
and the recommendations
from the committee
highlighted key areas
and our responses
outlined in the paper
I'd like in particular
to draw attention
to the work
to tackle
cuckooing
some of our most
vulnerable residents
so I was very pleased
to receive the report
from the committee
and I'm pleased
that we'll be actioning
all their recommendations
do we have any questions
can we agree
the recommendations
2.1 to 2.3
on pages
357
to 3
and 358
of the agenda
pack please
agreed
item c11
improving our
private rented sector
councillor Wolfe
please introduce
the report
thank you chair
this paper proposes
the renewal
of our borough wide
additional licensing scheme
for the next five years
and consulting
with residents
and landlords
to hear their views
on proposals
to extend
selective licensing
to nine more wards
which would bring
approximately 74%
of all private rented homes
in the borough
into a regulated environment
we know there are many
excellent private landlords
out there
and I'm pleased
that our proposal
approach recognises that
and provides a streamlined
scheme for landlords
who are members
who are members
of an existing
accreditation body
we do also know
it's not always the case
almost a fifth
of private rented homes
and not of a decent standard
and there are
lower standards
of thermal efficiency
with an estimated
200 homes
not expected
to meet minimum
EPCE standards
which has direct consequences
on residents' ability
to heat their homes
affordably
so as noted in the report
we welcome the government's
recognition of the importance
of protecting private renters
and the measures
they are considering
in legislation
including the ending
of section 21
no fault evictions
so I'm really pleased
to bring these proposals
forward
to consult
on a significant expansion
of our licensing scheme
to extend our ability
to stand up
for private renters
I also am really pleased
with the work
that's been going on
and I want to put on record
the thanks to all the staff
because I think this is
such an important thing
because our private renters
are just as important
as our leaseholders
and residents
is there any questions
from anybody?
Councillor Onestas
Thank you
I've noticed that
it is not all
of Islington Wards
that have been selected
for this next phase three
if I could get some
clarification
why some of them
have been excluded
I'm going to let
Jade answer that
because
yeah I'm very happy
again to arrange
separate briefings
to run through
in more detail
with the team
if it would be helpful
but effectively
we are maxing out
based on the evidence
we've assembled
over the last year
on those
which we feel
have demonstratable
kind of desktop evidence
to support
a selective licensing scheme
it's not under
current legislation
in the council's gift
to make a determination
to extend licensing
for the whole borough
it's an application
to a secretary of state
and for that to be
for the likelihood
of success
to be considered
it has to be based
on sort of specified
evidence that meets
a sort of statutory test
and those further wards
we feel are able
to meet that test
seven of them
definitely do
in our view
and two of them
there is a strong case
that we can argue
and put forward
based on the evidence
that we do have
unfortunately
for the residual wards
we don't have sufficient
evidence at this time
we'll continue to explore that
and if possible
we will bring forward
further schemes
I'd also just note
the council takes part
in kind of
seeking to influence
government's approach
to selective licensing
and one of those asks
is that it is not
necessarily kept
as a reserve decision
to secretary of state
and it's something
that could be
administered locally
by local authorities
and I happen to take you
through it more detail
if helpful
do you have another question
just to get a further
understanding on that
because I did look
at a table
which indicated
whether it had new hazards
whether deprivation rating
and there did seem
to be essentially
some wards
where they had
met two of the criteria
after three
that are going forward
and there were other wards
that did meet
two of the criteria
but aren't going forward
so is there any kind
of priority
in terms of
which indicator
really moves it forward
again it's on that
it's on the overall balance
and the degree of variance
away from like
the national
kind of medium levels
that sort of influenced that
so if we had
a single ward
that had very strong
presentation
even in one characteristic
that might form
sufficient evidence overall
but yeah
so there is a level
of judgment involved
as I say
we've included
those wards
which we are confident
kind of fully satisfy
the test
subject to consultation
responses
and any further representations
and those which we believe
there is a strong case
and those which would not
have a strong likelihood
of a success
effectively looking at
the licensing decisions
that have been taken
up and down the country
and it's a fairly
a fairly well established system
it's not quite scientific
but it is sort of substantially
kind of well trodden
and it's very important
to note that this is
a proposal to consult
and that you know
we need to bring back
the outcomes of that
consultation
and it will be
I have no doubt
sort of representations
that we need to take on board
both from kind of landlords
and potentially resident bodies
and others
that might well inform
inform the final proposals
anything else
no
can we agree
recommendations
1.1 to
1.6
on page 367
of the agenda
please
thank you
item D12
Islington
three year local
implementation
planned programs
for transport
for London funding
I'm sure as everybody here
knows that our
transport strategy
and the schemes
that arise out of it
are funded in a number
of different ways
but one of the
one of the most
significant funding
schemes we have
is from the transport
in fact from
transport from London
we have to submit
to them
what we propose
our program to be
it's a three year
program
and it's
essentially
it has to fit
into certain criteria
this report
sets out
the requests
we will be making
and the reasons
for it
as I say
what then happens
we will submit it
if we approve it
tonight
to get submitted
to TFL
who will
look at it
and
raise any queries
and then
hopefully by
March 2025
they will agree
the funding
which will then
be paid to us
there are a series
of different criteria
as you can see
from the report
and what we
are claiming
within those
different categories
is also set out
in quite a lot
of detail
do we have any
questions
no
can we agree
recommendations
1.1 to 1.2
on page 517
of the agenda
for the pack
please
agreed
thank you
now to the last item
for this evening
item G13
exempt minutes
of the meeting
held on the 24th
October 24
pages 599
to 600
of the agenda
pack
can we agree
those minutes
as an accurate
record please
agreed
thank you very much
everybody
there are no
further items
to consider
that concludes
our meeting
this evening
the next
meeting
of the executive
will be on
the 16th
of January
2025
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