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Extraordinary Meeting, Council - Wednesday, 7 May 2025 10.00 am

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Summary

At an extraordinary meeting, Surrey County Council voted to note a report on devolution and local government reorganisation (LGR), paving the way for the cabinet to decide whether to submit a final plan to the government. The final plan recommends a two unitary council model divided into east and west geographies. This model aims to unlock further devolution, streamline operations, enhance service delivery and unlock financial efficiencies.

Local Government Reorganisation and Devolution

The main item under discussion was the final plan for LGR in Surrey, following the government's English Devolution White Paper published in December 2024. 1 The plan addresses the reorganisation of Surrey's local government structure and seeks to unlock further devolution of powers and funding from central government.

The Proposed Plan: The final plan recommends the creation of two unitary councils, divided geographically into East and West Surrey. This model is favoured over a three unitary approach due to its potential for financial sustainability and efficient service delivery. Councillor Tim Oliver OBE, Leader of the Council, stated that the two unitary model is:

...bold, forward thinking and evidence led and a plan that seeks to modernise local government and create a more sustainable and resilient future for Surrey.

Rationale: The plan argues that a two unitary structure would:

  • Streamline operations and enhance service delivery.
  • Unlock financial efficiencies.
  • Enable greater local control over transport, infrastructure, housing, planning, skills, economic growth and climate change.
  • Align service delivery with key partners, including the police, fire service, and health system.
  • Establish community boards to ensure local engagement and responsiveness.

Financial Considerations: The report acknowledges significant financial challenges, including increasing service demand, potential funding reductions, and high levels of debt held by some authorities, particularly Woking Borough Council. A key request to the government is to write off the existing debt, to avoid the need for immediate Exceptional Financial Support for at least one of the new unitaries.

Community Engagement: The plan proposes a community engagement model with community boards, aiming to deepen collaboration between the new councils, partners, and residents.

Debate Highlights:

  • Catherine Powell, Residents' Association and Independent Group Leader, raised concerns about the consistency of the papers and the financial implications for the western unitary authority, particularly regarding council tax bands and debt.
  • David Lewis, Cabinet Member for Finance and Resources, refuted Councillor Powell's claims, stating that her analysis was based on flawed assumptions and analyses. He clarified that the number of council tax bands is set by the UK government and that the council tax base difference marginally favours the West.
  • Robert Evans OBE, Labour & Labour Co-operative Group Leader, expressed his opposition to the two unitary model, arguing that it would result in oversized and geographically challenged authorities that do not align with government principles for devolution.
  • George Potter, a Councillor, criticised the report as being filled with dodgy figures and dubious and flawed assumptions .
  • Fiona Davidson, a Councillor, argued that Surrey Children's Services needs to be broken up, and that the preferred options puts the councils with the largest debt and the most need from children's services in the same unitary.
  • Sinead Mooney, Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care, noted that she had been contacted by a number of Spelthorne residents and organisations expressing concern about the proposal to place the borough in the West unitary.

Decision: At the end of the debate, the council voted to note the report, with 36 members voting for, 20 against, and 2 abstaining. This clears the way for the Cabinet to make a decision on whether to submit the final LGR plan to the government.

Other Matters Discussed

  • Councillor Chris Townsend apologised for using inappropriate language at a previous budget meeting.
  • The council welcomed Peter Harp as the newly elected Councillor for Nork and Tattenhams Division.

  1. The English Devolution White Paper sets out the government's ambitions for deepening and widening devolution across England, including the creation of Strategic Authorities. 

Attendees

Profile image for Ayesha Azad
Ayesha Azad Conservative
Profile image for Catherine Baart
Catherine Baart The Green Party
Profile image for Steve Bax
Steve Bax Deputy Cabinet Member for Highways • Conservative
Profile image for John Beckett
John Beckett Residents Association
Profile image for Jordan Beech
Jordan Beech Conservative
Profile image for Luke Bennett
Luke Bennett Conservative
Profile image for Amanda Boote
Amanda Boote Independent
Profile image for Dennis Booth
Dennis Booth Residents for Guildford and Villages
Profile image for Harry Boparai
Harry Boparai Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Liz Bowes
Liz Bowes Conservative
Profile image for Natalie Bramhall
Natalie Bramhall Cabinet Member for Property, Waste and Infrastructure • Conservative
Profile image for Helyn Clack
Helyn Clack Deputy Cabinet Member for Children, Families and Lifelong Learning • Conservative
Profile image for Stephen Cooksey
Stephen Cooksey Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Clare Curran
Clare Curran Deputy Cabinet Member for Children, Families and Lifelong Learning • Conservative
Profile image for Nick Darby
Nick Darby Dittons and Weston Green Residents
Profile image for Fiona Davidson
Fiona Davidson  Residents for Guildford and Villages
Profile image for Paul Deach
Paul Deach Deputy Cabinet Member to the Leader of the Council • Conservative
Profile image for Kevin Deanus
Kevin Deanus Cabinet Member for Fire and Rescue, and Resilience • Conservative
Profile image for Jonathan Essex
Jonathan Essex The Green Party Group Leader • The Green Party
Profile image for Robert Evans OBE
Robert Evans OBE Labour & Labour Co-operative Group Leader • Labour
Profile image for Chris Farr
Chris Farr Independent
Profile image for Paul Follows
Paul Follows Liberal Democrats Group Leader and Leader of the Official Opposition • Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Will Forster
Will Forster  Liberal Democrats
Profile image for John Furey
John Furey  Conservative
Profile image for Matt Furniss
Matt Furniss Cabinet Member for Highways, Transport and Economic Growth • Conservative
Profile image for Angela Goodwin
Angela Goodwin Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Jeffrey Gray
Jeffrey Gray  Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Tim Hall
Tim Hall Chair of the Council • Conservative
Profile image for David Harmer
David Harmer Conservative
Profile image for Edward Hawkins
Edward Hawkins Conservative
Profile image for Marisa Heath
Marisa Heath Cabinet Member for Environment and Planning • Conservative
Profile image for Trefor Hogg
Trefor Hogg Conservative
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Robert Hughes Conservative
Profile image for Jonathan Hulley
Jonathan Hulley Cabinet Member for Children, Families and Lifelong Learning • Conservative
Profile image for Saj Hussain
Saj Hussain Conservative
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Frank Kelly Conservative
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Riasat Khan Independent
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Robert King Labour and Co-operative
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Eber Kington Residents Association
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David Lewis  Conservative
Profile image for David Lewis
David Lewis Cabinet Member for Finance and Resources • Conservative
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Scott Lewis Conservative
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Andy Lynch Reform UK Group Leader • Reform UK
Profile image for Andy MacLeod
Andy MacLeod Farnham Residents
Profile image for Ernest Mallett MBE
Ernest Mallett MBE Residents' Association and Independent
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Michaela Martin Farnham Residents
Profile image for Jan Mason
Jan Mason Residents Association
Profile image for Steven McCormick
Steven McCormick Residents Association
Profile image for Julia McShane
Julia McShane Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Sinead Mooney
Sinead Mooney Cabinet Member for Adult Social Care • Conservative
Profile image for Carla Morson
Carla Morson Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Bernie Muir
Bernie Muir Vice-Chair of the Council • Conservative
Profile image for Mark Nuti
Mark Nuti Cabinet Member for Health and Wellbeing, and Public Health • Conservative
Profile image for John O'Reilly
John O'Reilly Conservative
Profile image for Tim Oliver OBE
Tim Oliver OBE Leader of the Council • Conservative
Profile image for Rebecca Paul
Rebecca Paul Conservative
Profile image for George Potter
George Potter Liberal Democrats
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Catherine Powell Residents' Association and Independent Group Leader • Farnham Residents
Profile image for Penny Rivers
Penny Rivers Liberal Democrats
Profile image for John Robini
John Robini Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Becky Rush
Becky Rush Conservative
Profile image for Joanne Sexton
Joanne Sexton Independent
Profile image for Lance Spencer
Lance Spencer Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Lesley Steeds
Lesley Steeds Conservative
Profile image for Mark Sugden
Mark Sugden  Conservative
Profile image for Richard Tear
Richard Tear Conservative
Profile image for Ashley Tilling
Ashley Tilling Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Chris Townsend
Chris Townsend Ashtead Independent, working with Ashtead Residents
Profile image for Liz Townsend
Liz Townsend Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Denise Turner-Stewart
Denise Turner-Stewart Deputy Leader and Cabinet Member for Customer and Communities • Conservative
Profile image for Hazel Watson
Hazel Watson Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Jeremy Webster
Jeremy Webster Conservative
Profile image for Fiona White
Fiona White Liberal Democrats
Profile image for Keith Witham
Keith Witham Conservative
Profile image for Peter Harp
Peter Harp  Nork and Tattenhams Residents' Associations

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Meeting Documents

Agenda

Agenda frontsheet Wednesday 07-May-2025 10.00 Council
Supplementary Agenda - Extraordinary Council - 7 May 2025 Wednesday 07-May-2025 10.00 Council
REISSUED Supplementary Agenda - Extraordinary Council - 7 May 2025 Wednesday 07-May-2025 10.00 Co
Supplementary Agenda Annex 2 Appendix 7 - Surrey Heartlands ICS Letter of Support - Extraordinary

Reports Pack

Public reports pack Wednesday 07-May-2025 10.00 Council

Minutes

Printed minutes Wednesday 07-May-2025 10.00 Council

Additional Documents

Annex 1 - Surrey County Councils Final Plan for LGR May 2025 - REISSUED
Annex 2 - Surrey County Councils Final Plan for LGR - Appendices - REISSUED
Item 3 - Devolution and Local Government Reorganisation - cover report
Annex 1 - Surrey County Councils Final Plan for LGR May 2025
Annex 2 - Surrey County Councils Final Plan for LGR - Appendices
Annex 3 - Equality Impact Assessment
Item 3 - Annex 2 - Appendix 7 - Surrey Heartlands ICS letter of support