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Special Meeting, Education, Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny Committee - Friday, 23rd October, 2026 9.00 am

October 23, 2026 at 9:00 am Education, Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny Committee View on council website Watch video of meeting Read transcript (Professional subscription required)

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The Education, Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny Committee met to consider an amended consultation document regarding the proposed closure of Ysgol Bancffosfelen. The committee discussed the rationale behind the proposal, including the school's low pupil numbers, financial deficit, and building condition. Following discussion, Councillor Russell Sparks moved, and Councillor Martyn Palfreman seconded, that the updated and amended consultation document be accepted. The motion was carried with no members voting against or abstaining. The Chair confirmed that the consultation document, including the amendments, would now proceed to Cabinet.

Modernising Education Programme: Ysgol Bancffosfelen Consultation

The committee considered an amended consultation document concerning the proposed closure of Ysgol Bancffosfelen, with pupils potentially transferring to Ysgol Pontyberem. Councillor Glynog Davies, Cabinet Member for Education, explained that the proposal stemmed from concerns about low pupil numbers, surplus places, the school's deficit budget, and the poor condition of its buildings. He highlighted that the document had been amended following feedback from the previous meeting.

Officers presented the changes made to the document, noting that concerns raised by committee members had been addressed. Allan Carter, Schools Transformation & Change Manager, confirmed that the published capacity of the school was 98, but the usable capacity was lower due to building issues. He explained that the published capacity figure of 98 was retained for consistency with official data, although the report acknowledged that the actual capacity would decrease.

Councillor Liam Bowen raised several points, questioning the factual accuracy of the published capacity figures and expressing disappointment that negative comments about the school's leadership had been removed without replacement. He also queried the basis for including building condition costs in the paper when demolition had been promised. Allan Carter responded that the published capacity figures were based on the most recent official data and that the cost of demolition would be met from the capital maintenance budget. He also clarified that a commitment to fund demolition had been made some time ago, but subsequent discussions about rebuilding the hall had led to a change in financial priorities.

Councillor Martyn Palfreman sought clarity on a statement regarding the expansion of Ysgol Pontyvallon, which was planned regardless of the outcome of the Ysgol Bancffosfelen proposal. Sarah Williams, Modernisation Team Manager, confirmed that this expansion was being sought through a Welsh Government grant and was not directly linked to the Bancffosfelen proposal, but rather to address existing under-capacity pressures in the area.

Councillor Kim Broom asked for confirmation that a summary of the new Estyn report would be provided to parents during the consultation process. Officers confirmed that the full report would be attached to the consultation report, and that Estyn, as a key stakeholder, would likely respond to the consultation itself. Craig Davies added that Estyn also published separate reports for parents and pupils, which could be included.

Councillor Russell Sparks questioned why Ysgol Bancffosfelen had been selected for closure when other schools in the authority had higher surplus capacity and larger deficits. The Chair ruled this out of order as it was not related to the amended document. However, Owain Lloyd, Director of Education and Leisure, assured Councillor Sparks that the minutes of both meetings would be attached to the report going to Cabinet, highlighting the scrutiny committee's concerns. He also confirmed that a list of all schools and their surplus capacity would be provided to the committee.

Councillor Jean Lewis sympathised with Councillor Bowen's position, stating that it was important for questions raised by local members to be answered transparently. The Chair reiterated that the meeting's purpose was to focus on the amended document and the changes made.

Councillor Liam Bowen also raised a question about the headteacher's job security in relation to Ysgol Llandarog, with which Ysgol Bancffosfelen had a soft federation. Owain Lloyd confirmed he had met with local members and the headteacher previously and was happy to meet with the governing body of Ysgol Llandarog.

Following the discussion, Councillor Russell Sparks moved, and Councillor Martyn Palfreman seconded, that the updated and amended consultation document be accepted. The motion was carried with no members voting against or abstaining. The Chair confirmed that the consultation document, including the amendments, would now proceed to Cabinet.

Attendees

Profile image for Cllr. Liam Bowen
Cllr. Liam Bowen Plaid Cymru Pontyberem
Profile image for Cllr. Stephen Williams
Cllr. Stephen Williams Unaffiliated - Independent Elli
Mari Hughes
Profile image for Cllr. Sue Allen
Cllr. Sue Allen Independent Whitland
Profile image for Cllr. Lewis Davies
Cllr. Lewis Davies Welsh Labour Kidwelly and St.Ishmael
Profile image for Cllr. Peter Hughes Griffiths
Cllr. Peter Hughes Griffiths Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town North and South
Profile image for Cllr. Kim Broom
Cllr. Kim Broom Plaid Cymru Trimsaran
Profile image for Cllr. Shelly Godfrey-Coles 
Cllr. Shelly Godfrey-Coles  Unaffiliated - Independent Burry Port
Louise Waring
Anthony Enoch
Vacancy Town and Community Council Member
Profile image for Cllr. Betsan Jones
Cllr. Betsan Jones Vice-Chair of Council Plaid Cymru Betws
Profile image for Cllr. Hefin Jones
Cllr. Hefin Jones Plaid Cymru Llanfihangel Aberbythych
Lle Gwag
Vicky Jeremy
Sara Williams
Profile image for Cllr. Jean Lewis
Cllr. Jean Lewis Plaid Cymru Trelech
Profile image for Cllr. Martyn Palfreman
Cllr. Martyn Palfreman Welsh Labour Hengoed
Profile image for Cllr. Edward Skinner
Cllr. Edward Skinner Welsh Labour Hengoed
Profile image for Cllr. Russell Sparks
Cllr. Russell Sparks Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town West
Vacancy Catholic Church
Allan Carter
Siwan Rees
Rebecca Thomas
Craig Davies
Ioan Phillips
Rachel Morris
Profile image for Cllr. Glynog Davies
Cllr. Glynog Davies Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru Cwarter Bach
Gawain Williams

Topics

Modernising Education Programme (MEP) Ysgol Bancffosfelen Ysgol Pontyberem Estyn Ysgol Bancffosfelen Consultation Ysgol Pontyvallon Ysgol Llandarog

Meeting Documents

Agenda

Agenda frontsheet 23rd-Oct-2026 09.00 Education Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny Com.pdf

Reports Pack

Public reports pack 23rd-Oct-2026 09.00 Education Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny C.pdf

Additional Documents

Summary.pdf
Report.pdf