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Davidris. Good evening, everybody. We've got a few seconds or whatever before we start. So we won't just start right now. I'll give it a couple of minutes until we hit seven o'clock. Thank you. everybody um my name is councillor david robson and i am the chair of the licensing subcommittee but before we begin uh tonight's proceedings um i need to ask nominations to elect a chair to oversee this hearing i nominate councillor david robson thank you do i have a seconder thank you and now at this stage could uh the committee introduce themselves please councillor dogas i'm councillor abraham dogas representing waterland southbank wards i'm councillor marianna masters representing uh stretton wells ward thank you and we will be your committee for this evening's hearing i will come to other officers on the call shortly um and to do a roll call just to check everybody's here um but jacqueline just before we start we are now recording are we yes chair we are thank you right right well good evening everybody and welcome to the meeting of the licensing subcommittee as mentioned at the start i'm councillor david robson uh before we start i've got a couple of announcements to make about the meeting rules this meeting is hosted by lambeth and has been broadcast live via audio minutes and recordings may be used for quality and training purposes in the event that any technical issue is required the meeting to be adjourned and it cannot be restarted within a few minutes further updates will be posted on the council's democracy x account which is at lbl democracy um to ensure that the meeting runs smoothly only one individual will be allowed to speak at a time and if you've joined the meeting by teams which we all have please ensure your microphone is muted unless otherwise speaking or asking a question or answering a question any person speaking must be permitted to finish what they're saying without interruption and if i request that any an individual stop speaking they should do so immediately interruptions may result in you being disconnected from this meeting members of the public which i don't believe we have this evening are welcome to record or tweet the public proceedings of the meeting and please note that the subcommittee will notify interested parties of its decisions of of the application within five days thank you so it's at this stage i'll quickly ask uh some of the officers to introduce themselves um jacqueline as you had the floor just now good evening jacqueline pennycourt democratic services then we'll come over to you ola hello my name is ola or jory and licensing officer thank you um sean mark good evening everyone my name is sean mark mucam i'm a solicitor in the council's legal services department and the legal advisor for this subcommittee today justin will come to you a little bit later because you're actually going to you get a whole slot so i'll get you i'll leave that for your bit very shortly and am i right in suggesting that mr hadat is here on behalf of the applicant um okay brilliant uh moving on to item number two that takes care of introductions do we have any declarations of interest from the committee i see none the minutes of the previous meeting are they all agreed agreed thank you very much okay so we are only hearing one um application this evening we had 4a on the agenda for quick stop 14 acre lane but uh this has been provisionally adjourned to the hearing on the 17th of july and will not be heard at this evening's meetings so therefore we moved uh we're only hearing one hearing this evening and that is brixton kebab located at 201 stockwell road london sw 9 9 sl and this is an application for a variation and i'm going to hand over to ola to introduce the application thank you chair this is an application to a variety license for brixton kebab at 201 stockwell road the application seeks to permit late night refreshments until midnight to allow members of the public on the premises monday to sunday and until 3 a.m by way of delivery the application is also seeking to extend the opening times until 3 a.m attending tonight for the applicant is mr richard addad one representation has been submitted by the licensing authority against the application and in attendance for the licensing authority is justin atkinson the application can be found on pages 57 to 63 of the report and the representation from the licensing authority can be found at pages 65 to 67 of the reports a copy of the existing premises license is at pages 69 to 79 and options open to committee members can be found on page 55 section 6.2 of the report that concludes my introduction unless members have any question for me and i'll ask mr haddad to present the application team any questions to ola at this stage i have none none from me no brilliant thank you so mr haddad uh yes you have up to five minutes to address the licensing subcommittee thank you thank you chairman um good evening members my name is richard haddad i'm a chartered environmental health officer uh with 25 years experience in local government i've been acting on behalf of the the applicant uh brixton kebab 201 stockwell road brixton on this application for late night refreshments just my background um brixton kebab has a license to sell alcohol until 11 pm so they already have a license for for the sale of retail sale of alcohol until 11 pm and has been operating for over three years without any complaints or action from any of the statutory authorities the restaurant currently provides eating and takeaway from 11 am to 11 pm however as members will know there has been a 30 drop in footfall on the high street due to the covet pandemic the recession and of course the cost of living crisis businesses like brixton kebab are generally struggling to survive therefore increasing the hours of operation till 3 am to take advantage of the nighttime economy will economy will significantly improve the business prospects members of the licensing committee will be aware that the stockwell road area and the vicinity has a very vibrant nighttime economy made up of of the many food drink and entertainment venues and sits next door to the brixton o2 members will also note that land with council has its own nighttime strategy to boost the borough's nighttime economy this application and the business are instrumental to this strategy members will also note that the premises application is for a late night refreshment only and not for the retail sale of alcohol or regulated entertainment both of which are more likely to cause public nuisance and crime and disorder than late night refreshments it is also worth mentioning that brixton capab has had no statutory interventions by the police or environmental health for non-compliance with issues of crime and disorder or public nuisance respectively this is a key point for your decision tonight both the police and environmental health have made no representations um in relation to this application and and are satisfied that there will be no impact from the premises license on the licensing objectives well the main reasons why the premises will have no impact on the licensing objectives is that it plans to close the doors to passing trade at midnight and only provide a takeaway online phone delivery services by our delivery platforms such as uber and um just eat the applicant is a responsible businessman who has gone out his way since opening to enhance a community by encouraging greed modes of transport for delivery drivers such as electric bikes and scooters and worked with neighboring businesses to undertake litter picks at the end of the evening um there have been one there's been one representation uh from the licensing team and some um proposed conditions that we believe to be unreasonable and workable uh these are noise from patrons noise from delivery vehicles litter drops from patrons cooking smells um and the the issue of antisocial behavior and crime and disorder firstly this is a professionally run business there have been no incidents of noise and antisocial behavior as mentioned the premises does not supply alcohol or provide regulated entertainment um and it's not proposing to do that after after um 11 pm um there will be no patrons after 12 as this will be focused on online deliveries the doors will be shut um secondly the delivery bikes are all electric so there's no noise disturbance from that thirdly there'll be no additional impact from litter in the vicinity as the premises shuts at midnight fourthly the premises has a has maintained its carbon filtration system um and the additional hours will not suddenly create more odour nuisance and finally the premises won't be a place for people to congregate after late night drinking and create a risk of violence and antisocial behavior as mentioned above it closes at midnight in conclusion the applicant takes the licensing objectives very seriously and wants to work with all the responsible authorities to promote the objectives um of the licensing um policy uh to promote a safer cleaner and greener um environment in accordance with the corporate plan thank you very much um thank you mr haddad uh just a quick um technical alert uh rather unhelpfully my laptop has decided to tell me it will be installing an update any second so and i can't delay it so i'm gonna have to come in on my phone and then um share from that but um and then come back in on the laptop once that's done so i apologize for that but i'm not dipping out the meeting but only now would a laptop decide to give a um an update so apologies but i understand but thank you very much for that and i'll just quickly sort this now but uh team i don't know if you want to lead with one of the questions whilst i quickly sort this out yes um i'd like to jump in and ask a question uh thank you thank you for the um for your application and your advocacy uh on behalf of the clients um i just wanted to ask about obviously you mentioned that the noise uh for delivery will be mitigated because they're all electric bikes um it is an area that um doesn't have excessive parking is there going to be provision for uh parking and uh just just because of obviously you know if there are events that are happening at the o2 people at being outside um and just just congregating around the area as well so yeah what's the provision thank you council masters um the the provisions is is quite a large premises so there is possibility for those electric bikes to go inside if there is a a lot of um revelers outside especially if there's a a a an event at the o2 um so i've spoken to the applicant and he's happy to accommodate electric bikes um rather than being outside within the within the actual property so there's no there's not going to be a congregation of electric bikes waiting outside for deliveries can i come in with a few questions and a comment please thank you for your presentation i mean i also run restaurants so i'm in the trade um when you say the electrical bikes or scooters will be kept inside the premises have you done any provision in relation to health and safety where are they going to be kept what exactly will happen when customers are walking into the premises uh and the drivers those who are going to do the delivery and try to leave the premises i mean have they done any has this already been designed prepared or is this just an idea that the business owner is thinking as a solution if it becomes a problem for him thank you councillor dogus um the the the fact of the matter is that there's not going to be any public the the public will not will be prohibited from entering so the doors will be shut and only available for entry by the vehicles and and it's a it's a bike basically it's a push bike um it's it's larger than a standard door quite easy to push through a a bike um health and safety considerations well which is within my remit so as an environmental health officer so food hygiene and health and safety is one of those things that we've we've looked at um and we don't perceive it to be a concern um and in relation to um what we've proposed and um what environmental health has said i mean it's been pretty much uh negligible they haven't raised a concern uh in relation to to um public safety what about the drivers you mentioned uber and just it i'm assuming uber and just it will provide the orders but also they will be providing the drivers to collect and deliver where are they going to be kept where will the drivers be staying during while they're waiting for the flight to be prepared so at the moment he's all his deliveries are done the owners deliveries are done via electric bikes so um i mean as you know the the the epos system run by uber or or just eat will will generate a ticket that you know that that will tell the the driver when the product will be ready and they'll come and collect it so there won't be there won't be a huge congregation i mean i've seen the bit of the business i've been there on a saturday night just to gauge what's going on um in the vicinity but also um i mean i'm born and bred in the area so i know the area quite well um and i know that for me um standing outside there isn't an impact from drivers and members of the public um or riders i should say members of the public um in in that vicinity and i'm not just saying that i'm just saying because i've i've stood out there and gone through it uh the time and motion it takes for these things to happen if this applicant is successful the applicant will be expecting a large number of orders after 11 pm which means if you get 15 orders from uber 10 orders from just eat you will be having 25 orders to cook and deliver which will means likely if there are not 25 drivers coming there will be at least 15 drivers coming if if some drivers are able to pick up two orders there'll be a large number of drivers and orders are probably expected to be between certain times so they're not going to be spread over four hours between 11 and 3 a.m they might be all between 11 and 12 p.m and we're talking about monday tuesday wednesdays as well as friday and saturdays it feels that um i'm not sure if there has been a proper um sort of um you know check into what it will be like if you have 25 drivers coming at 11 30 to collect certain orders uh and where are those people going to be breaking will they be taking a break will they go into the premises will there be just a window where they be will they be passed on the foot how is this going to be managed the the drivers i mean i can assure you there's not going to be 25 orders i mean i think if the if the owner gets 25 orders he'll be very happy um i think any business along there you've got to remember that that part of the of the the town is is is um well supplied with with uh premises that supply food um on average he's probably doing half a dozen an hour of trade in regards to mobile uh mobile uh takeaways via uber or or or just eats um in relation to i mean most of these drivers are self-employed drivers there is no requirement under the under the legislation to provide provisions for those but we do they talk there are toilet provisions there so um and those drivers or riders do use the the toilet provisions and and there are tables and chairs there because it's a restaurant so they can sit there and have a break so all those things have been considered um by all means you you know do pop along onto the stockholder road and have a look at the premises it's always advisable to have a look at those things um you know to give you an idea of of what the the application is is trying to achieve just a final quick question david if you allow me in terms of security well if you're allowing drivers to go in and out of the restaurant for a break for a toilet or to collect the meals and there are members of public around especially during a big concert at or two there'll be lots of people around how would you prevent those people from coming in if they're especially if they had a couple of bottles of um beers and everything and they just want to go into the restaurant order some food how would you stop them um well the the plain simply the the the the licensing act and the license itself will will will be um in such that it won't allow the premises license holder to to to actually try it will be conditioned that the business does not open the doors to public from midnight onwards so it's quite simply with they'll lock the doors and um you know if there is an issue where people are trying to force their way in then clearly it's a public order offense and a police matter um that could happen to any business you know and there are other businesses in the facility that do have these types of licenses where they do close the door and and and you know and only provide a online service so i don't i don't see that as a as a impact on the licensing objectives um um you know just just based on this application i mean further to that if i may mr hadard is and thankfully all sorted now with my computer computer issue thanks everyone um what's to stop somebody ordering from an app and then standing outside and waiting for the food the the the way and the way that conditions work within local authorities um and i can tell you that from from managing a number of licensing teams over the years is that the the the condition tends to be that there is a bona fide address that delivery takes place at and uh and you and you know justin will will will probably re re uh but they could but they could be sitting on the corner couldn't they or you know or would they you know well i mean the they could be but you know from my experience that we tend to the condition tends to be it needs to be from from um um the the premises um and when they put in their their details into the into the card machine it tends to you know uh populate that information but for i've never i've never i mean it can happen but i don't i don't envisage it happening where people are going to stand outside and and um and and and wait for a delivery to come from wherever you know and you confirm there's obviously there's going to be no hatch or anything like that to be able to have deliveries up no no and that and that's specifically there for you know a he doesn't want to alter the the fabric of the facade and and fall foul of you know having to to to change that extra cost but but also as soon as you introduce a new um delivery mode i.e from a hatch then that's just going to invite problems in the long run so i think that's the reason why he's not going to go down that route thank you and i suppose just to follow up from council dogus is yeah i mean my is kind of pricked up as well when i thought hang on you're bringing these bikes that have been on the road outside inside the premises that didn't really seem like it was because i was just wondering if you is that still the case is that what you're saying that well what we're doing if the council if the council feels that is necessary to to condition that that we don't have two or three bikes outside to electric bikes waiting for deliveries i mean it happens all over the borough um you you're probably you've probably noticed it and you know um they are greener and cleaner the transport but if if for instance we felt the the applicant felt that there was a lot of revelers outside um due to a you know a performance at the o2 then it would make it would make sense for a short period of time to have the bikes come in but it's just because it's just obviously you you'll know now then there's to have when there is an act on the o2 those railings go all the way up the stockwell road so it kind of i mean it blocks the entrance to the so it's a very busy uh part of the of that part of the town center isn't it i suppose so yes um yeah so i suppose it was just trying to understand about that crowd control a little bit more how are you going to manage that crowd and i think and i think there is potential to park the bike around the corner away from the from the the from the um the queues and then just come and collect the um um collect this takeaway with a bag um and then just walk around you know it's it's a it's a sensible option um to to do that okay councillor masters did you want to chip in yeah i did i did actually following on from from my colleagues um uh questioning um i i do feel that um i i would need to have a bit more reassurance that this is well thought through um given the the obvious recent history with the o2 and the you know the horrific incidents that happened there is potential risk i mean the o2 has actually done quite a lot in terms of security provision and and actually risk assessments and so it's really important that any business around has actual plans for how to manage um you know access in and out uh when there are potentially lots of people congregating so i just feel that i need a little bit of reassurance and i don't know whether committee members have ideas as to how to to to to you know to what what what to suggest in terms of how that sort of management of potentially you know even if there were 10 uh delivery bikes at the same time with say uh uh you know with then a lot of crowds around at the time of um a concert ending or you know how would that be managed i i i kind of needed a bit more detail on that but i don't think it's on your colleagues to answer really councillor masters i think it's on mr but i will say as well i mean we will be hearing from mr atkinson shortly as well and that will actually but i think i'll give right an answer to mr haddad at this stage and respond to that so i think it's about crowd control and that flow yes yes if we look at peak flow of of any business in the vicinity the the the predominance of of sales is between the hours of 6 and 10 pm that's that's where the peak is so if you look at your bell distribution your peak is at between the 6 and 10. what we're trying to do or the business is trying to do is is to is to um take advantage of the the nighttime economy to to to you know in line with you know with policy um to to actually um provide a little bit of surplus income between between um midnight uh or hours 11 o'clock till three o'clock now at the moment um when we had the old discussions with the police the police weren't to to um too worried about only because if you think about what's going on at the o2 it it is during the peak time when the business is is already selling um up until 11 o'clock it's alcohol and it's and it's it's hot food um so they haven't experienced any concerns um i don't i don't envisage there being you know more than what they achieve between the hours of six and ten um for the hours of of eleven and three and you know so um i'm happy to i'm happy for there to be a a condition which which stipulates that there there needs to be um i don't know um no blocking of the of the thoroughfare or the the the the um path um once if there's a an event on or something of of um or similar to that um i mean i don't know i haven't come across ideal of a lot of applications um in all around the country in particular london but i don't this has never come up as a as a concern but what hasn't sorry having a having a venue nearby um and the the potential for the venue having an impact on the business but but that's so do you know i mean that's because the queuing system for the o2 academy has completely changed and it now runs up all the way up that street and around the corner so i would have thought that you would know that if you're representing the business yes i i haven't i haven't seen that i haven't seen queues i mean i've been a few times but i haven't seen queues when there's an event yeah because i think that's that was that was a strict condition on the academy so that they could be open and how they manage so it's quite pivotal to that kind of area and that yeah thank you sure okay thank you and i suppose and thank you for being you know the the suggestion of an added condition in terms of no blocking and how that was managed i suppose there's been no suggestion of sia has there no i mean it's it's not um i mean the door's going to be shut so i mean you can understand if we were if he wanted us to open until three o'clock and have an so i suppose he would he would he would actually consider that but then you will take you're changing the parameters of that business and then potentially the police would have a concern in relation to another business that's open in the vicinity um i think the mode is very much you know let's you know let's increase the hours but the but let's reduce the risk and the impact on the licensing conditions that's really what we're after um unless there's any further questions at this stage i think it'd probably be useful to hear from mr atkinson who's is that okay committee we will move on to ask uh the only representation that we've got which is from uh the licensing authority and it can be found on page number sorry i think it was 65 but my laptop has obviously restarted in that time uh mr atkinson if you could please good evening all good evening chair thank you very much for your time um as uh chair state my name is justin atkinson i'm licensing officer representing lambeth council as a responsible authority under section 13 4th the licensing act 2003 as amended under the license under the police and social responsible responsibility act 2011 the license authority considered this considered this application in full and in doing so the licensing authority had concerns relating to this application and how and how the premises would promote the four licensing objectives or the license objectives in particular the prevention of public nuisance prevention of crime disorder and public safety having referred to our licensing policy types of premises appendix 6 page 53 recommended hours appendix 5 page 51 location appendix 7 page 57 of our policy the premises are classified within the language licensing policy as a restaurant and takeaway the premises is located on brixton end of stockholm road which is deemed as a major town center under the policy according to the current license policy appendix 7 page 58 the premises located in the town center but is close proximity to residential properties there are residential properties located opposite the premises the premises therefore is designated for the purpose of this application as in a residential area proximity to residential accommodation is in is a general consideration for regarding the prevention of public nuisance the authority the authority treats each case on its own individual merits however strict conditions would generally be considered on premises licenses in this area that have dense level levels of residential accommodation or residential accommodation in close proximity to them it's important to stress that the terminal hours in appendix 5 are intended for guidance only the license authority may recommend or agree an earlier or later terminal hour where this is considered appropriate the recommended hours in the policy for premises of this kind in this location are 11 till midnight for late night refreshments uh on sunday from 11 till one monday to thursday and from 11 pm till 2 am friday and saturdays following a meeting with mr richard haddad on the 7th of may 2025 a further two conditions were proposed by the license authority if agreed by the applicant it is believed that the conditions will continue to promote the license objectives in particular the prevention of public nuisance and public safety they were as follows the premises shall provide a designated safe space within the establishment for patrons pedestrians who may require it the space shall be easily accessible offering an environment for individuals to wait or seek assistance the space shall be monitored by staff during operation hours operation hours to ensure the safety and well-being of all individuals using the area second the condition was proposed all delivery delivery riders shall wait within the premises and not in public highway pending the collection of their order further to the conditions mentioned above we have yet to receive confirmation of the proposed conditions which can be found on page 67 within the agenda pack which was part of my representation i also would like to suggest a further condition if the committee's mind to grant this application to consider the following sia registered door supervisors sia registered door staff shall be employed at the premises in accordance with the risk assessment to be carried up by the dps so to be carried out except for fridays and saturdays where there will be a minimum one sia registered door supervisor between the hours of 11 pm and when the premises closes when employed the doors staff will wear high visibility or bands and assist with any dispersal of of riders or prevent unwanted patrons within the premises may also refer to page 54 in the agenda pack where the planning authority did not make a formal representation in respect to this application however they confirmed that the following comments providing response to previous uh variation application variation application in 2002 still stand planning permission was granted on 23rd of the 3rd 2022 for the change of use from travel agent use class e to restaurant takeaway use class eb sir generous with installation of an extraction extraction duck to the rear condition six or the permission restricts the hours as follows customers are not permitted on the premises other than within the following times from 10 a.m to 11 p.m monday through to friday and 10 a.m to 11 p.m saturdays and same for sundays and bank holidays um with this in mind my objection still stands um and this concludes my representation thank you justin just to lead sorry i was um could you clarify i didn't quite understand what you said about sia you said from 11 pm but if the place closes at 11 only for deliveries does that if but yeah so basically i have a condition where it states that um drivers will be permitted so riders were permitted inside the premises if you wanted to grant the application and therefore if riders are permitted within the premises and they're unwanted patrons trying to access the premises then it'll be sia to kind of deter anyone who's unwanted in their premises well you don't have the confidence that staff would be able to handle that it seems odd just to have sia after they close no well it says risk assessment as well in accordance um yeah okay yeah colleagues was there anything else for uh justin at this stage none from me david nope i mean i think we suppose but sorry mariana yeah i was just going to ask um with your recommendation about having uh sort of like security on the door is that unless is that onerous or is it is it in line with the other businesses in the in the immediate proximity because i know sort of further to towards the the tube station that's that's the norm but i'm not quite sure about um um um you know there so i just wanted to to have an idea whether that is and i should clarify that we have to take each application on its own merits at this stage but yeah so um yeah understand whether it's unnecessarily onerous so i'm i would happy to be to retract the time where it says 11 pm and say just risk assessment now take into consideration there is a large venue um in close proximity and if say for instance they are um you know accessing the premises um i'm supposed to say 10 11 o'clock even onwards till three in the morning but if it's just riders only how would the premises negate from patrons who may be heavily intoxicated from entering their premises now um i did mention it be risk assessed um and i'm happy to retract that and say risk assessed seven days a week rather than it be just uh friday and saturday having to stipulate one si so it'd be down to the actual licensee to take into consideration depending on what activity may be taking place in and around the premises that may have an impact on that premises or it could be a case of um they might seem it necessary due to a certain pattern of behavior that could be taking place um in the area so i'm happy to rephrase that as a condition the state in accordance with a risk assessment seven days a week a risk assessment seven days a week where is that in terms of page 67 but that's an additional condition that's an additional condition that's just a condition of nine um okay um mr haddad then so can you just i suppose we need some clarification whether you accept the conditions as set out on page 67 bear in mind you're on mute sorry thank you um thank you justin um thank you members i've been doing this since 2003 and that there's no excuse here but i'm just saying for me this is quite a quite an onerous um i appreciate that but i don't think that comes into it mr haddad i think okay i mean yeah i mean we can we can go down the route of risk assessments um over the seven days in relation to i don't need for i mean we can come on to that one but i mean from one to eight as it stands but i think we were looking for clarification on whether you accept them or not well no there's conflict on those on those um okay and and the reason why there's conflict on those um let me just bring anyone anyone's in specifically yes let me just bring up the um i mean i think bearing in mind the premises um will be shut yep um there's going to be hang on a second lysos shall use their best endeavors to ensure that delivery drivers shall conduct which number sorry number four sorry yeah that will not cause noise nuisance that includes uh but not limited to slamming of doors playing loud music shouting over revving engines and sounding horns at the premises or uh the delivery address i mean i i can understand if if this was um we were looking for a brand new license but this is this is a this is a variation um in license and uh we've already said that they're going to be using push bikes and electric bikes from from 2300 onwards so i'm not sure the validity of that i mean i'm happy i mean it's it's arbitrary um but but i suppose if it's no skin off your nose then it's for the purpose of clarity and the purpose of ease for the committee and the authority i'm we're happy to to go for the um the proposed licensing conditions as as uh recommended by justin and with the addition of the the suggestion of the risk assessment yes i mean the the risk assessment is a is a formality uh we'll conduct that yeah we'll do that i mean i suppose the only other what i was thinking to suggest i was really encouraged to hear you say about litter picks and you know ensuring that the area outside i suppose adding as a condition around litter would probably that's fine yeah absolutely yes um we've just done one uh yesterday with merton so um yeah happy to do that great um okay well i just think it was important just to have that clarified because i think that then helps us in terms of being able to go forward into deliberation um i mean you have a right to reply in terms of what in to respond to justin in terms of what was just said and then we will ask any more questions of you and then i think without any further ado we'd probably move it to deliberation i think i think i've covered uh everything that justin raised in his in his report in my in my opening um paragraph so i'm happy to leave it there um and just do a closing statement when the time comes unless there's any other questions from the team you can go ahead now please mr how don't yeah thank you councillor robinson um robson sorry um okay as mentioned in my statement the business has taken uh reasonable steps to avoid making a negative impact on the community um the increase of hours from from 11 pm to 3am will be a welcome boost to the nighttime economy and make the business more viable for the future i would ask members to to to note that the business has has been and and will be operating within the parameters set within the council statement of licensing policy therefore um will have a minimum or negligible impact on the community thank you thank you um okay mr hannah and we ask you to hold tight and we will be back momentarily thank you thank you okay okay i'm here hi mr hada thank you for waiting i didn't think we'd be too long but just okay you can't say that before um are we all present and correct yes we are okay the licensing subcommittee is carefully considered an application oh hang on is just in here as well yes he is sorry i didn't have my full screen the licensing subcommittee is carefully considered an application for the variation of the premises license and the application is seeking authorization to permit the provision of late night refreshment and to extend the the current open hours having read the papers listen to the submissions of the parties at the hearing and haven't had regard to all relevant guidance policy and law and the need for any decision to be both appropriate and proportionate the subcommittee is determined to grant the application subject subject to conditions consistent with the operation scheduled detailed in the application and the following additional conditions are set out on page 67 plus um what was raised during the hearing a condition on litter which reads as follows so this would be condition nine during the hours of operation of the premises the license holder shall ensure sufficient measures are in place to remove and prevent litter or waste arising or accumulating from customers in the area immediately outside the premises and that this area should be swept and or washed and litter and sweepings collected and stored in accordance with the approved refuse storage arrangements arrangements by close of business in addition to that the premises shall provide a designated safe space within the establishment for patrons and pedestrians who may require it the space shall be easily accessible offering an environment for individuals to wait or seek assistance the safe space shall be monitored by staff during operating hours to ensure the safety and well-being of all individuals using the area and finally all delivery riders shall wait within the premises and not on the public highway pending the collection of their order you can of course appeal the decision as set out by the licensing committee but you will get a full written decision within five working days and that concludes the licensing subcommittee hearing as of the 21st of may 2025. Thanks very much thank you everyone you you