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“How will Croydon address "toxic debt" concerns?”

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At a meeting of Croydon Council, the lead commissioner gave a statement on behalf of the commissioners, the council approved recommendations regarding external audit findings and extension to the term of the Independent Chair of Audit and Governance Committee, and councillors debated traffic calming measures on Spa Hill and improvements to Courtwood Park. The council also discussed a range of questions from the public, including concerns about building safety at The Fold and Malcolm Wicks House.

Here are the key topics discussed:

External Auditor's Statutory Recommendation

Following concerns about the council's financial sustainability, Grant Thornton, the external auditor, issued a Section 24 Statutory Recommendation Report for 2024-25. The report highlighted the council's continued reliance on government Exceptional Financial Support (EFS) and the need for a sustainable solution to the debt issue.

Paul Dossett from Grant Thornton addressed the council, emphasising the need for collaboration with commissioners and the government to improve the financial position. He described the situation as a legacy of what the Section 151 officer1 had called 'toxic debt'. Councillor Stuart King, Leader of the Opposition, questioned the adequacy of the council's response to the report, while Councillor Helen Redfern asked whether the council was making progress. Councillor Esther Sutton asked about processes to identify underperformance in transformation initiatives. Councillor Clare Bonham sought clarification on the difference between a key and a statutory recommendation, and Councillor Rowena Davis asked how much of the financial deterioration was beyond the council's control.

Mr Dossett explained that a statutory recommendation required a detailed action plan, which would be monitored. He acknowledged improvements in the council's governance arrangements but stressed that extreme financial challenges remained. He also noted that the council needed to demonstrate transparently how its transformation programme was working.

Following the debate, the council voted to accept the statutory recommendation and approve the actions in response.

Building Safety at Queen's Quarter

Several questions were raised regarding building safety at the Queen's Quarter development, particularly concerning The Fold and Malcolm Wicks House.

Mufango Simwaka asked about the council's investigation at The Fold and its alignment with statutory responsibilities under the Fire Safety Act 2021, the Building Safety Act 2022 and the Housing Act 2004. Rosam McQuacqua sought clarification on the council's responsibilities as a freeholder.

Councillor Lynne Hale, Statutory Deputy Mayor and Cabinet Member for Homes, explained that Legal and General (L&G) were responsible for The Fold, while the council was responsible for Malcolm Wicks House. She added that the council was working with the London Fire Brigade to address concerns.

Davis Marengayi asked about reviews undertaken to assess the safety and quality of the buildings following the collapse of Henry Construction. Councillor Hale confirmed that necessary surveys and safety checks were being put in place at Malcolm Wicks House.

Irwin Stewart questioned why The Fold was approved with only one staircase, despite post-Grenfell recommendations. Councillor Hale responded that the building design was approved under regulations in force at the time of the application, which preceded the Building Safety Act 2022.

Lauren Fordham-Gothie asked what the council had proactively done to support residents and why there had been no visible communication. Councillor Hale stated that the Corporate Director of Housing and the Director of Assets and Repairs had met with Sarah Jones MP, and that the council had written to residents at Malcolm Wicks House.

Petition Regarding Spa Hill Road Safety

Hazel Freeman presented a public petition concerning speeding and dangerous driving on Spa Hill. She described numerous collisions and near misses, and called for traffic calming measures and CCTV speed enforcement cameras.

Councillor Scott Roche, Cabinet Member for Streets and Environment, acknowledged the concerns and stated that the council would investigate additional measures, refresh road markings, and liaise with Transport for London (TfL) to explore funding opportunities.

Councillor Patsy Cummings said that collisions on Spa Hill had not been captured on the road safety data report.

Councillor Chris Herman supported the petition and called for CCTV speed enforcement cameras.

Petition Regarding Courtwood Park

Councillor Andy Stranack and Samantha Blakeman presented a member petition calling for the improvement of Courtwood Park in Forestdale. Ms Blakeman highlighted the park's importance to the community and the need for inclusive and accessible play equipment.

Councillor Scott Roche responded that the council was investing in green spaces and would reassess Courtwood Park for potential improvements.

Appointment of Commissioners

Mayor Jason Perry announced that commissioners appointed by the Secretary of State had started work. Jackie Belton introduced the team, including Jed Curran, Councillor Abbey Brown, and Debbie Warren, and outlined their roles and responsibilities. Ms Belton emphasised that the commissioners would work closely with councillors and officers to help Croydon improve. She also clarified that the council remained responsible for setting the budget and council tax levels.

Resignation of Chief Executive

Mayor Jason Perry announced the resignation of the Chief Executive, Catherine Kurzweil, with her final day being 31 October 2025. He thanked her for her work in stabilising the organisation and rebuilding public confidence. Elaine Jackson, Assistant Chief Executive, was covering the role of Chief Executive in the interim.

Pride in Place Programme

Mayor Jason Perry mentioned Natasha Irons MP's enthusiasm for the Pride in Place programme, which aims to empower local communities. He confirmed that New Addington had been selected to receive up to £20 million over the next 10 years.

Public Questions

Several members of the public posed questions to the council, covering a range of topics:

  • Attila Whitmore asked about repairs to a garage door and a refund of rent. Councillor Lynne Hale apologised for the delay and offered a full refund of rent plus an additional rebate.
  • Costa Dexiades asked about protecting adult social care services. Councillor Yvette Hopley highlighted Croydon's good rating from the Care Quality Commission (CQC) and the Adults Living Independently transformation programme.
  • Martin Post asked about unclear branding on parking permit renewal letters. Councillor Scott Roche apologised and confirmed that the council was working to update the letters.
  • Connelly Duxbury asked about Croydon Council's spending of money from the Mayor of London's Carbon Offset Fund. Councillor Jason Cummings said that Croydon was above average across London in terms of how much money had been spent that had been collected in this way, and that the council had made noticeable progress on carbon reduction.
  • Ayan Mahamud asked about council-owned homes managed by private management companies. Mayor Perry responded that the council does not engage with private management companies to manage council-owned jobs.
  • Erwin Stewart asked about the building's approval with only one staircase. Councillor Hale said that the building design was approved under the planning and building regulations, which were enforced at the time of the application.

Extension of Term for Independent Chair of Audit and Governance Committee

Council agreed to extend the term of Dr Olu Alasadeh as Independent Chair of the Audit and Governance Committee for a further two years.

Annual Report of the Scrutiny and Overview Committee

Councillor Leila Benhassel, Chair of the Scrutiny and Overview Committee, introduced the committee's annual report. She highlighted significant overspends across demand-led services and cautioned that the factors leading to last year's cost escalations had not been fully addressed.

Questions to the Mayor and Executive

Councillors asked questions of the Mayor and Executive on various topics, including:

  • The government's appointment of commissioners.
  • The Wondell Park Cafe contract and business rates.
  • Safety issues at The Fold and Malcolm Wicks House.
  • Cancellation of speech and language therapy services.
  • The use of live facial recognition cameras.
  • The outgoing chief executive's notice period.
  • Funding for New Addington and a banking hub.
  • Conditions at Truscott House.

Council Debate Motions

Due to time constraints, the council did not debate the motions submitted by the Conservative and Labour groups.


  1. In local government in the United Kingdom, the Section 151 officer is a statutory appointment, required under Section 151 of the Local Government Act 1972. The Section 151 officer is responsible for the proper administration of the council's financial affairs. 

Attendees

Profile image for Councillor Richard Chatterjee
Councillor Richard Chatterjee Civic Mayor • Conservative • Shirley North
Profile image for Councillor Mohammed Islam
Councillor Mohammed Islam Deputy Civic Mayor • Labour • Selhurst
Profile image for Councillor Kola Agboola
Councillor Kola Agboola Labour • New Addington North
Profile image for Councillor Jeet Bains
Councillor Jeet Bains Cabinet Member for Planning and Regeneration • Conservative • Addiscombe East
Profile image for Councillor Leila Ben-Hassel
Councillor Leila Ben-Hassel Labour • Norbury and Pollards Hill
Profile image for Councillor Sue Bennett
Councillor Sue Bennett Conservative • Shirley North
Profile image for Councillor Adele Benson
Councillor Adele Benson Conservative • New Addington North
Profile image for Councillor Margaret Bird
Councillor Margaret Bird Deputy Cabinet Member for Health and Adult Social Care • Conservative • Old Coulsdon
Profile image for Councillor Claire Bonham
Councillor Claire Bonham Liberal Democrats • Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood
Profile image for Councillor Simon Brew
Councillor Simon Brew Conservative • Purley and Woodcote
Profile image for Councillor Janet Campbell
Councillor Janet Campbell Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Cabinet Member for Health and Adult Social Care • Labour • West Thornton
Profile image for Councillor Louis Carserides
Councillor Louis Carserides Labour • South Norwood
Profile image for Councillor Chris Clark
Councillor Chris Clark Shadow Cabinet Member for Planning and Regeneration • Labour • Fairfield
Profile image for Councillor Sherwan Chowdhury
Councillor Sherwan Chowdhury Labour • Broad Green
Profile image for Stuart Collins
Stuart Collins Labour • Broad Green
Profile image for Councillor Mario Creatura
Councillor Mario Creatura Conservative • Coulsdon Town
Profile image for Councillor Jason Cummings
Councillor Jason Cummings Cabinet Member for Finance • Conservative • Shirley South
Profile image for Councillor Patsy Cummings
Councillor Patsy Cummings Labour • Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood
Profile image for Councillor Nina Degrads
Councillor Nina Degrads Labour • Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood
Profile image for Councillor Danielle Denton
Councillor Danielle Denton Conservative • South Croydon
Profile image for Councillor Samir Dwesar
Councillor Samir Dwesar Conservative • Purley and Woodcote
Profile image for Councillor Lara Fish
Councillor Lara Fish Deputy Cabinet Member for Customer Service • Conservative • New Addington South
Profile image for Councillor Sean Fitzsimons
Councillor Sean Fitzsimons Labour • Addiscombe West
Profile image for Councillor Alisa Flemming
Councillor Alisa Flemming Labour • Norbury Park
Profile image for Councillor Clive Fraser
Councillor Clive Fraser Labour • Addiscombe West
Profile image for Councillor Amy Foster
Councillor Amy Foster Shadow Cabinet Member for Children and Young People • Labour • Woodside
Profile image for Councillor Simon Fox
Councillor Simon Fox Conservative • Waddon
Profile image for Councillor Gayle Gander
Councillor Gayle Gander Conservative • Kenley
Profile image for Councillor Maria Gatland
Councillor Maria Gatland Cabinet Member for Children and Young People • Conservative • South Croydon
Profile image for Councillor Matt Griffiths
Councillor Matt Griffiths Labour • Norbury and Pollards Hill
Profile image for Councillor Lynne Hale
Councillor Lynne Hale Statutory Deputy Mayor and Cabinet Member for Homes • Conservative • Sanderstead
Profile image for Councillor Jessica Hammersley-Rich
Councillor Jessica Hammersley-Rich Shadow Cabinet Member for Communities and Culture • Labour • Woodside
Profile image for Councillor Patricia Hay-Justice
Councillor Patricia Hay-Justice Labour • Addiscombe West
Profile image for Councillor Maddie Henson
Councillor Maddie Henson Labour • Addiscombe East
Profile image for Councillor Christopher Herman
Councillor Christopher Herman Shadow Cabinet Member for Streets and Environment • Labour • South Norwood
Profile image for Councillor Yvette Hopley
Councillor Yvette Hopley Cabinet Member for Health and Adult Social Care • Conservative • Sanderstead
Profile image for Councillor Karen Jewitt
Councillor Karen Jewitt Labour • Thornton Heath
Profile image for Councillor Mark Johnson
Councillor Mark Johnson Conservative • Shirley North
Profile image for Councillor Humayun Kabir
Councillor Humayun Kabir Labour • Bensham Manor
Profile image for Councillor Stuart King
Councillor Stuart King Leader of the Opposition • Labour • West Thornton
Profile image for Councillor Ola Kolade
Councillor Ola Kolade Cabinet Member for Community Safety • Conservative • Kenley
Profile image for Councillor Joseph Lee
Councillor Joseph Lee Deputy Cabinet Member for Children and Young People • Conservative • Selsdon and Addington Village
Profile image for Councillor Endri Llabuti
Councillor Endri Llabuti Conservative • Purley Oaks and Riddlesdown
Profile image for Councillor Enid Mollyneaux
Councillor Enid Mollyneaux Shadow Cabinet Member for Community Safety • Labour • Bensham Manor
Profile image for Councillor Stella Nabukeera
Councillor Stella Nabukeera Labour • South Norwood
Profile image for Councillor Michael Neal
Councillor Michael Neal Conservative • South Croydon
Profile image for Councillor Tamar Barrett
Councillor Tamar Barrett Labour • Thornton Heath
Profile image for Councillor Eunice O'Dame
Councillor Eunice O'Dame Labour • Bensham Manor
Profile image for Councillor Ian Parker
Councillor Ian Parker Conservative • Coulsdon Town
Profile image for Councillor Ria Patel
Councillor Ria Patel Green Party • Fairfield
Profile image for Councillor Tony Pearson
Councillor Tony Pearson Deputy Cabinet Member for Regulatory Services • Conservative • New Addington South
Profile image for Mayor Jason Perry
Mayor Jason Perry Executive Mayor • Conservative
Profile image for Councillor Andrew Price
Councillor Andrew Price Conservative • Park Hill and Whitgift
Profile image for Councillor Holly Ramsey
Councillor Holly Ramsey Conservative • Purley and Woodcote
Profile image for Councillor Helen Redfern
Councillor Helen Redfern Conservative • Sanderstead
Profile image for Councillor Chrishni Reshekaron
Councillor Chrishni Reshekaron Shadow Cabinet Member for Homes • Labour • West Thornton
Profile image for Councillor Scott Roche
Councillor Scott Roche Cabinet Member for Streets and Environment • Conservative • Shirley South
Profile image for Councillor Nikhil Sherine Thampi
Councillor Nikhil Sherine Thampi Conservative • Old Coulsdon
Profile image for Councillor Luke Shortland
Councillor Luke Shortland Conservative • Coulsdon Town
Profile image for Councillor Andy Stranack
Councillor Andy Stranack Cabinet Member for Communities and Culture • Conservative • Selsdon Vale and Forestdale
Profile image for Councillor Alasdair Stewart
Councillor Alasdair Stewart Conservative • Purley Oaks and Riddlesdown
Profile image for Councillor Appu Srinivasan
Councillor Appu Srinivasan Labour • Norbury Park
Profile image for Councillor Esther Sutton
Councillor Esther Sutton Green Party • Fairfield
Profile image for Councillor Robert Ward
Councillor Robert Ward Deputy Cabinet Member for Contract Management • Conservative • Selsdon and Addington Village
Profile image for Councillor Callton Young OBE
Councillor Callton Young OBE Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Cabinet Member for Finance • Labour • Thornton Heath
Profile image for Councillor Fatima Zaman
Councillor Fatima Zaman Conservative • Selsdon Vale and Forestdale

Topics

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Meeting Documents

Agenda

Supplementary agenda Public Question Responses_Q1 to Q5 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf
Supplementary agenda Public Question Responses_Q6 to Q13 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf
Agenda frontsheet 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf

Reports Pack

Public reports pack 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf

Additional Documents

Public Question Responses_Q1 to Q5.pdf
Public Question Responses_Q6 to Q13.pdf
Appendix B - The Councils Proposed Response to the Section 24 Statutory Recommendation.pdf
Report.pdf
Appendix A - Auditors Annual Report for the Year Ending 31 March 2025.pdf
Report.pdf
Report.pdf
Appendix A - Scrutiny Annual Report 2024-25.pdf
Minutes of Previous Meeting.pdf